Pelagos. Is Transgender

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

Or the saddest, uninteresting, personal story.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

because the bigotry has been so thrilling

[Frostera-stormreaver]

To be quite frank, this sounds like one of those Tumblr fishing for sympathy threads. I was becoming sympathetic but with all the backpedaling and rewriting of their reasons for being intolerant. I’m not sure how much of this is true.

[Mahaluunadie-bleeding-hollow]

@Rialius-wyrmrest-accord

They were calling me slurs behind my back in class.

Thankfully I was the one student who remained in the classroom for hours after everyone else went home so I didn’t have to fear being attacked by them.

So I guess you could attribute to some of your unwillingness to not give phobes a chance because of your personal experience which is completely understandable. But you are aware that phobes have their own experiences that make them the way they are correct? People don’t hate others “just cause” and if they do they might fall under being mentally ill.

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but, I’m not a bigot for calling out his BS.

[Rialius-wyrmrest-accord (Rialius)]

@Mahaluunadie-bleeding-hollow

But you are aware that phobes have their own experiences that make them the way they are correct? People don’t hate others “just cause” and if they do they might fall under being mentally ill.

Then they need therapy. But they won’t get it because they don’t want to get better.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Yeah. You kinda are for all the hateful bile I’ve seen you spewing in this thread.

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

Such as?

/10chars

[Dragtuslivz-alexstrasza (Dragtuslivz)]

Just back and forth one liners now, how sad. I thought we were going somewhere with this. Ah well. Goodnight my fellow wow players. I hope we all lay down our heads with the one universal truth in our minds.

That Epstein didn’t kill himself.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

You know, the whole dismissing the problem of murders, and then trying to feign sympathy with a distraction about suicide rates while making it very clear that you were saying that was their problem, not a problem of the people pushing down on them causing the conditions that drive them to that. Among many other rays of sunshine

[Frostera-stormreaver]

It was inevitable. These topics always end into those.

[Rialius-wyrmrest-accord (Rialius)]

So let’s say there’s a person who doesn’t know that a word is a slur.

Someone else says, “hey, that’s a slur.”

A reasonable person will say, “Oh, I didn’t know that, I’ll stop using it.”

A less-than reasonable person will argue but could be reasoned with.

An unreasonable person will start breying about “SJW’s (sic)”

[Mahaluunadie-bleeding-hollow]

@Viradectis-tichondrius

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but, I’m not a bigot for calling out his BS.

Calling people’s experiences fake is not cool. Even if you believe they aren’t true. Just don’t do it, it’s a bad look and it can and I believe his story may be true. I’d be angry if someone tried to call something I experienced and traumatized me to “BS”.

@Rialius-wyrmrest-accord

Then they need therapy. But they won’t get it because they don’t want to get better

That’s where people have to try and discuss with them, even if it’s just over online it helps. And I understand you not wanting to discuss with a phobe in public. If you think someone is a threat to your life. Do not discuss with them, I agree whole heartedly there. But people can change if they are shown the error of their ways.

[Rialius-wyrmrest-accord (Rialius)]

Most are unwilling to see the error of their ways and are lost causes. The fox in this thread is a great example.

[Mahaluunadie-bleeding-hollow]

I guess that’s where you and I simply disagree.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

@Mahaluunadie-bleeding-hollow

That’s where people have to try and discuss with them

The problem with this, is the people you’re talking about who need the education, their problem is a “Them” problem, not other people’s. That does not mean that if people who have a connection to them are able to try and change their opinion or explain what’s up, that that’s a bad thing. But it’s not right to place the burden of someone else’s mistake on the person that is being hurt by that.

There’s another way to educate, and it’s worked before. And that’s teaching people that something is no longer socially acceptable. It doesn’t mean vast oppression of the masses, just telling people that what they’re doing isn’t good. Hopefully the people who don’t have the hate as a central part of their being will learn and let people be. And the ones that refuse to accept other people as part of society and lash out will find that there are proportional consequences.

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

22 and 91% are from the same community. He said repeatedly that half the country want to kill him for what he is. He’s detracting real issues and making it about him. It’s all for attention. I don’t find him interesting at all.

There’s not thing wrong with trans and it’s perfectly normal. But that doesn’t mean I can’t call him out on his BS. Or that I think you’re kind of a jerk to others to the point that you make your side look bad.

That’s not what bigot means, but go ahead, you guys have been so full of it, why would you stop now? That word doesn’t bother me. Only that you’re applying it to everyone in this thread.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

@Viradectis-tichondrius

Or that I think you’re kind of a jerk to others to the point that you make your side look bad.

I don’t care how I look to you. You have made yourself more than clear as to what you are.

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

What are the consequences?

[Viradectis-tichondrius]

Oh, I’ve tried to be as clear as possible. Just know what the word means before you award it to me. I’ll put it right next to the other dead labels.