If someoneās upbringing is by people who claim lgbt people are demons and are evil people. They are going to believe that until they either have a good encounter with one of them, or someone else convinces them that they are wrong. Nobody is going to google something when they believe they are right. Itās wrong, but itās the way it is.
This is the exact thing about it for me. The problem isnāt needing an elaborate backstoryā¦ in their case itās needing pretty much ANY backstory.
Shaw and Flynn have been in the same room literally once that I can remember in the whole of BfA (when breaking into Dazarāalor) and truly nothing was happening there. Shaw was irritated by him and Flynn was there, sure to help and probably there are a few honorable intentions under there, but really for gold, not Shaw. Flynn is being PAID by Cyrus to go help. If Flynnās joking around was flirting it means he is flirting with literally everyone in the entire game at all times since thatās his constant state of being.
Moreover in the quest where you go to Freehold with Flynn, the bartender clearly references a story about Flynn having the hots for some woman in the past. Obviously, Flynn could be bi and that would explain that, but it doesnāt change that his relationship with Shaw (until Blizzard decided to declare them gay lovers) was non-existant.
Thatās lazy.
Again from Vaalrok: āmaybe if I saw more interaction between the two of them. I know there were fans that shipped them previously, but fans ship anyone and everyone. Lol.ā ā¦ EXACTLY. As someone who is a fan of well written yaoi, I also assure this thread that fans WILL pair up literally everyone and anyone for no reason at all. Fan fiction can do that and fan fiction is light fluff which has itās place, but I expect better writing from professionals whose story Iām paying to read.
You donāt understand what Iām trying to say, if you treat one of those people like a piece of trash because of their flawed beliefs. Their beliefs are going to be reinforced. This is why trying to educate and be kind even if the other person is trying to be inflammatory is a good thing. If you donāt want to educate someone and you just want to call them a bad person then why are you wasting the time and effort. (Not referring to you specifically)
This is a broad assumption. Like every other organization that uses human capital its vice or virtue comes in how it is used.
Iām not telling you itās fair or right. Nothing in life is. Fairness is and ideal we strive for but rarely ever achieve.
Take solace in the fact that you live in a time/place where you have more opportunity and protections under law than ever before and do the best you can with it so that those that come after you will have it better.
Look, if people have the ability and the energy to educate thatās great. I think itād be even better if some people took a good faith effort to search for answers to their questions before demanding of people to know why other peopleās lives have actual worth. But inflammatory no.
One of the way the twerps try to harm people is by emotionally wearing them down by repeated false claims of genuine questions. Usually asking really basic questions that take a lot of explaining, and then just keep at it like no one ever answered them.
When it comes to peopleās lives and rights, I donāt think itās a good thing to include the people who want to destroy those things in the discussions of how to handle and protect them.
Well least I tried, Iām just saying you claim to dislike the hatred of others but you are unwilling to have a conversation and specifically ask why that person hates an entire group of people for existing. It is a proper gateway for an actual conversation, but I guess it cannot be helped if you yourself hate the other side as well which in that case I feel pity for you.
I disagree, people develop natural in todayās society without religion via empathy. If someone cannot empathize with the others then there may be some deeper problem with that person that doesnāt just involve morals. In days when society wasnāt asā¦advanced I would agree though religion was very helpful with morals but at the same time a detriment due to wars and conflict over religion. It was and still is a double edged sword.
For most people their views are often set. Unless they choose to listen there is often little you can do. They have to reach out and try to learn.
Again, which is why I implore anyone who hasnāt familiarized themselves with the topic to seek out scholarly sources to learn.
And further, if someone is going to call me a deviant or unmoral, just because of how I am? Iām not going to sit there and just take that. Itās not my job to make sure others are kind to people.
Idk, Iāve seen atheism cause so much destruction and corruption of ones heart that not even Sora could fix it.
To be honest, the purest and kindest hearts Iāve ever met were those who did not tell anybody their religious beliefs and only saw you for your attitude and overall mentality.
While the fox is just coming from the stupidly wrong direction, I think thereās a grain of truth to be had.
There are bad and dangerous people involved in every group. Some of them are bad, but sincere in their attachment to the group, others just see it as a way to get something they want. And some of these people will try and seek power in those groups, and they can destroy those groups. So always be aware of that, or you may end up finding that a group you belong to has been destroyed because no one wanted to take a hard look at the actions of some of their fellow members.
I understand that point of view, perfectly. And that is when I say the best solution is to walk away. Engaging in conflict is never a good thing.
Our society is not perfect, it has its flaws. Hatred is one of its flaws. People hate what they were taught to consider evil or unmoral or deviant as you put it. The only way to repair that damage is to have a fair middle ground even if its hard to swallow. It is everyoneās job to at least attempt to spread kindness in my opinion.