Well yes, but it adds up.
20k is a really low starting wage, and I would doubt that anything other than a tester would start there. But if someone started at 40k, for example it would only take them 5 years to be up to be up near 60k and 10 years would put that person at 94k. That’s nothing to sneeze at if you could get a 10% raise and stick around for 10 years.
You’re working on the presumption that the pay raise occurs on an annual basis. This is not necessarily true. I’ve worked in places where the raise was not annual and they’d proudly announce they’re raising wages again after several years.
This severely impacts the growth.
You didn’t disprove what I said, so not sure where the “not really” comes from.
If people choose to walk off the job all at once then yes, they will create a situation in which the business needs to hire a bunch of temporary workers to fill the roles if they want to keep business going. Doesn’t mean there’s high demand for people looking to fill video game developer positions.
No problem I can do that .
You know that livable $15/hr wage fast food workers in Ca. and other places fought to get is biting them in the rear because companies have come to realized half of their staff can be replaced by machines to take orders and only have maybe a couple ob staff to make food and a manager to hand it out.
Well if it wasn’t annual I would think there’s some other form of annual compensation such as a bonus.
You would never retain employees if you didn’t give them something to work towards.
Its not a matter of deserving or not. I worked in restaurants nearly my entire life, from age 13 to age 29 (still do it part time now). I met awesome people during that time.
And there are people who are at the right place in these jobs. But i’m sorry if you’re trying to build a life, buy your first house, raise your first kid, before you’re established or anything. You need to move on. You need to learn a more marketable trade, because on the margin the franchisees and owners operate on, they’ll never be able to pay you more even if they want to.
That’s cold hard facts.
I’m told in the tech sector it’s best not to stick around and instead jump ship in favor of higher salaries.
Fair enough, I’ll admit I don’t have the greatest knowledge on this particular subject.
You would be very surprised.
I dunno, I’ve been enjoying the game myself a lot lately. Everything’s been fine, if I don’t enjoy it then I just don’t pay for it. Simple as that.
When they most assuredly are in charge of their own life and income, I really actually don’t care what they make. I’ve come up from the bottom myself, anyone can do it. They can make a good income if they really wish to.
Oh my goodness /facepalm. Actually no reputable news source says that Maduro won the election outright but instead that there are claims of rigging in the election (which is a known tactic done by socialists around the world in order to consolidate power when threated [look at what Democrats are doing with mail in voting which is known to be fraught with rigging]). I am more inclined to believe that Guido won over Morales and many other world leaders believe the same but if you want to support a depraved socialist like Maduro that really speaks to your character and morality.
I read the article about Bolivia which you were so kind to provide and while interesting and enlightening I could not stop laughing when I read this “Bolivia is but the latest of a long line of thriving, stable democracies destroyed with the support if not the outright participation of the U.S”. That right there is some “objective journalism”.
I also read about the massacre in 2019 and all I came up with was a bunch of Morales supporters in La Paz (a Morales stronghold) upset that they did not win the election and resorted to complaining. This reminds me of how Democrats/Leftists are still whining about 2016 in California, Oregon and Washington. Thanks for providing sources that are laughable (NYTs and The Guardian) to questionable (The Intercept).
Well I can continue this forever but I have grown tired of your fulmination. Night to you and everybody else. Better a right winger than a socialist/communist any day.
Didn’t know I was speaking to a gnome, the point went over your head. Well…no…its because you ducked.
“Its their problem not mine.”
Just say that instead of coming up with moral justifications why you don’t care about other human beings.
Simple.
What reality do you live in and can I live there too?
In anycase, this topic should be muted. Take care.
This in truth is basically how it is, move on and find new work. You knew what you were getting paid when you got hired. That’s nobody’s fault but yours.
I guess when trying to gaslight and call others morally bankrupt and it doesn’t work, you just have to concede and leave the thread
Very simple to say. Now define it.
Do tell what is a “living wage”? Put a number on it. What happens to the people who are now just over that number already? You are, effectively, making them poorer by bringing up everyone else to their level (you are insane if you think goods and services won’t rise to follow suit).
Why not just print everyone a shiny and crisp million dollar bill? Wait…why stop a million? Make that a billion! Everyone is an instant billionaire!. What happens next? Hint: It is a word that rhymes with “elation”. What about different regions? A million or even billion dollars means a totally different lifestyle in different parts of the country.
Also, why do you think you get to tell a company how it spends its money? Corporations already do have this technically since they are public and thus open to shareholders.
Just start with these easy questions and you’ll quickly begin to understand all the gotchas and crap that is literally impossible to balance out.
I’ll save you a little time. There is no perfect solution. I’d certainly agree that the rich need MEGA nerfed, but it is foolish to expect the answer how doesn’t come with a ton of problems and fallout that then become the next big problem.
I do think though some super big ones are limiting CEO total compensation (be careful not to say “pay”) is capped at 4-10X what the bottom compensated employee makes and if you want said CEO to make more, you have to raise not only the bottom but everyone else by the same %. So for example, if the bottom guy gets 10% more so the CEO gets 10% more, EVERYONE gets the same 10% relative to what THEY made (to keep everyone at the same relative economic ranking more or less).
I’d also support the extreme tightening of all the myriad financial loopholes top earners have at their disposal but NOT a flat tax.
But suffice to say these forums are certainly not the place to actually entertain such arguments.
You weren’t gaslighted, you don’t even understand what the term means.
You are though. Read your words outloud to someone.
Naw, I just understand that I am speaking with human beings who simply don’t care for what others go through, because they don’t see the consequences of it.
Hope you’re right, but under capitalism bad actors are incentivized to just stack the system in their favor again.
You do whatever you want idk. I haven’t worked a fast food job since high school 20 years ago. You’d be better served by a soulless robot anyway, since that is clearly all you think those in the food service industry are…mindless automatons whose sole purpose is to shovel obesity into your mouth.
I love this idea. I’d be able to take that stress-free janitor job I’ve always dreamed of.
Who would need to be productive anymore?
you were the one trying to manipulate the conversation to be about morals.
Nope, you just can’t seem to bear the thought of people having to be responsible for their own income.
And they’ll get through it, and hopefully get better wages or find a new company that gives them better wages.
A living wage in cali would probably be 25 an hour.
Is flipping burgers a sacred job now? How dare we replace it with a machine that does things more efficiently!
Anyway, my fingers are getting tired of moving beads around on this abacus. Sure wish someone would invent some kind of computing machine.
This was proven false long ago prior to the 1970’s where wages were increasing along with productivity. The notion that a wage increase will result in everyone being “poorer” or less “valued” or that the cost of things would “increase” has never had sufficient proof for it.
As for a living wage.
That was the minimum eage.
There was a whole calculation done, and by today’s standards it would be about 23 dollars an hour.
Basically, enough to afford rent and other services necessary to live.
A flat tax would actually be really good along with tightening of loopholes.
A flat tax helps to keep money moving in the economy because it causes companies to invest in their workers and other avenues to avoid paying higher taxes. This in turn increases productivity and is a great benefit to the economy as a whole while also making the company more robust against economic downturn.
Anyway, now ill bounce.