Or, and this is far more likely, we know he is intelligent enough to figure it out but also see him as being with a huge enough ego, self-centered, etc that he does not even look for such or just sees people not playing his way. In other words he does not see disabled, he just sees people not doing content.
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The development team is the source of the micromanaging we experience, not the players. Maybe that’s why Classic players seem happier to you. They’re allowed to just exist. They can go off script and not be given a list of chores.
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You say this… but not that long ago you said…
Do we not understand the descrepancy here? You want rewards that are revelant but not relevant enough to be fomo or forced?
What?
I guess you are going to pretend its normal for people like me to have to DEFEAT THE MAGE TOWER every time I want to fly. Nice comparison of the difficulty disabled people face playing in the face of an ableist developer, but i don’t think that was the point you were trying to make.
So anyway do you feel itd be fair if EVERY TIME you mount your DR mount you must defeat a mage tower encounter?
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Would I compare the skills needed to complete launch mage tower or 5 man visions to those needed for dragon riding? No. Not even close.
Would I compare dragon riding to completing a normal dungeon or killing world mobs? Yeah.
But then again, there is no real failure to dragon riding. You just wait 20 seconds until vigor fully recharges and try again.
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You seem to be confusing yourself.
Acknowledging something’s irrelevance does not mean I want it to be made perpetually relevant (that’s what Blizzard tries and fails to do, not me). I’ve done everything in-game that Pathfinder requires. It’s content that is irrelevant to me. It cannot be made more relevant without introducing new things to it, and even that relevancy will be temporary. The introduction of Pathfinder doesn’t even do that for players like me, as the new rep grind will likely be tied to the new zone, like the Nifflem rep was tied to the cavern.
Again, content losing its value over time is not an unnatural expectation, or even a problem to be fixed.
And acting like launch content is somehow more important than it has ever been halfway into an expansion’s lifecycle, after treating it as unimportant for the first year of the expansion when it was at its most relevant, is still an absurd thing for Blizzard to do.
You’re presenting this far too linearly. The level of skill to complete the mage tower, visions, completing a normal dungeon, and killing world mobs is certainly different, but the activities you need to be able to complete are the same.
With dragon riding, you not only need to be able to press a few buttons midflight you also need to be able to handle fast camera movements when you hit the buttons and very fast environment movement all the time. Then since you are an active participant, you need to be able to gauge when you need to hit the next button which limits any workaround of keeping the camera fixed in the sky. There are players who can’t even watch themselves on a legacy flying mount, but the passive nature allows those players to use autorun and either watch the sky or walk away from their screen. You can’t do this with dragon riding.
This isn’t a 1:1 skill expression comparison. Trying to reduce it to such a simple situation is just not useful.
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Normal Flying should have been enabled at the start.
Pathfinder Dragon Riding should have consisted of getting gold in all of the different races.
But I still think Dragon Riding should have been left a game mode, not a standard transportation mode.
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You have to remember at the end of the day Blizzards objective is to make money at the cost of literally everything else.
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Then… don’t hit any of the speed boosts? You can space bar 6 times or portal to the top of vald, point your camera and glide anywhere without hitting any ability.
It’s not just about the speed though, the way you start and stop is different and poses significant challenges.
When you start dragon riding, you have to angle your dragon slightly downward lest you fall out of the sky rapidly. This requires you to be looking in the direction of where you want to go. Then if you need to gain altitude early, that will add a jarring camera effect each time you gain speed, and then you’ll need to adjust.
On the landing side, you can’t just cancel your movement when you get to your spot per the minimap. Unless you angle your descent perfectly, you’ll have to camera down which can lead to the same problem as when getting pointed to the right direction.
With legacy flight, there is no need to ever watch your character’s movement. You can break it down into three distinct steps to start and two to finish, with no need to ever see the movement from point to point.
This is why I dislike using examples in these kinds of discussions. People focus too much on “solving” that example, even if they don’t really understand the problem and with total disregard for any other scenario that might exist.
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You say that, but what about the fact, that in some zones, just pointing will not trigger the vigor regen, unless you actually point the dragon straigtt down, then adjust the angle. But by then, you have lost so much height, it was almost basically a useless effort to regen.
Its not as easy as you make it out to be, and this is coming from a pretty darn good DRider.
PF should have never have been even mentioned in the same sentence as regular flight returning, in an expansion that has had flight in less than an hour into it.
Period.
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ground mounts are even older than legacy flying.
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Thank you for saying this. People who come out with these statements just make my teeth ache. When I am in Azure Span, at a certain point in the environment, no amount of clever pointing and lifting regenerates at anything less than a crawl. Its as if the area has inbuilt brakes. At first I thought, this has to be me and my limitations but no, no matter how many times I go there, it happens every time. I have no desire to fight the game to fly from A to B, I just want to fly.
And yes, PF is a pimple on the face of the game. They gave us flight from Day 1 and then apparently install an exploration requirement in Pathfinder…in zones we have crossed using gimmick flight? I mean, seriously?
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as i was repping in nazjatar, flying on my pathfinder-renoved mount, i couldnt help but appreciate how surgical legacy flying is, as one quest required i find rather small kelp buds that had fallen on the ground and could be found almost anywhere kelp was growing. this required much hover-scanning of the areas, like a humming bird. my DR mount skills wouldnt be able to do that. unless i was willing to search a whole zone, on foot or ground mount, not gonna happen. i feel bad for the people who ran nazjatar without flying. yikes.
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Honestly? It was pretty great. Was some of the best world pvp in a long time.
There will always be some “scenario.” You might have me if I hadn’t been watching the same tired arguments for static flight since WoD. Or I wasn’t literally watching another thread go nearly this same route, asking for another round of pruning for these same reasons. Spoiler, it’s not going well.
was that because nazjatar or because bfa’s heart of azeroth, etc, buffs?
I’m not sure what you mean by “I might have you.” My point is that too many times someone tries to use an example to demonstrate a point only for the opposition to direct the entire discussion onto addressing the example, regardless how many other situations might be relevant. It’s a way to derail the conversation at hand and is honestly a bad faith way to argue if done intentionally.
In this case, it’s also a strawman. Nobody is asking for Blizzard to redesign anything. Nobody is asking for Blizzard to make a change that would impact the entire player base in any meaningful way for their convenience. Nobody is asking for Blizzard to put any extra effort that could be spent elsewhere. The only reason we even started talking about the “scenario” is because you decided to redirect the conversation toward an idea that everyone struggling with dragon riding can solve the problem in a specific way.
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Yea, as soon as I seen this comment, I know not to take OP serious. The game is not even remotely close to dying.
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I was referring to the engagement in the past 4 expansions, before there was dragon flying. Not sure about this one yet.
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