No issue with at all. Seems on par with other expansions. I just hope it also unlocks dragon riding in the old world.
I hate that ‘slap in the face’ thing we see in here from time to time.
it always feels childish…juvenile…infantile.
But in this particular case I have to say if someone says it, yeah…because we arent talking about some irritation that someone burned down a tree in a storyline.
We are literally talking HANDICAPPED …DISABLED players who say they are having trouble with Dragonriding and have been.
The idea that DRing was cheap and easy to get, then we make the people who have trouble with it grind out normal flight…ESPECIALLY this late in the expansion while the rest of us have been zooming around the skies at mach 4.
Yeah…I can see how someone might call that a slap in the face.
Personally I have a few other words to describe that might be a tad more offputting.
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The meltdown… lulz
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It doesn’t. Not yet, at least.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that unlock requires a different achievement, though they might just retroactively add it.
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Every pathfinder achievement has had some sort of reward in addition to flight. Except Legion, I think. Presumably because the Class Hall mounts were released around the same time. It’s a safe bet that there will be something similar here.
Then stop making demands on people with disabilities based on your personal prejudices and generalizations.
I have crappy vision and hand to eye coordination issues that have never been a problem in real life. I don’t see a neurologist. I didn’t buy dragonflight. I could say I’m surprised that Blizzard is encouraging ableist posters in the forums, because it looks bad for them. But nothing surprises me.
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Question, if these people are having trouble with dragonriding, how do they play the game normally? The only main difference between dragonriding and normal flying is that you have to actively hit buttons, which is also what someone would be doing in PVE or PVP gameplay too.
If these same people can play the game without issue, how are they struggling to use dragonriding?
That’s what I’m failing to understand.
If someone can actually give a concrete reason for why someone’s disability would limit them in dragonriding BUT not normal gameplay, I’m down to hear it.
Edit: I would understand a thing to help reduce motion sickness but if someone’s brain is incapable of keeping up with dragonriding then I’m curious to how their brain can keep up with dungeons or raiding (if they do that) since that’s usually alot more information flooding into your brain.
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If they wanted to add a mount reward for the general sort of completion achievements usually associated with Pathfinder, there’s nothing stopping them from doing that without tying it to flight unlocks.
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There is a lot more required for the brain and vision to do in order to dragonride compared to normal flying.
The slowest dragonriding is 800% speed. The fastest normal flying is 410% speed.
But you still want to be dismissive of others’ disabilities.
None of this warrants a Pathfinder to allow them to have the accessibility they need.
No one said they can’t play the game. But their particular disabilities cannot do dragonriding.
There’s a huge difference.
I’m one of them who had major issues with dragonriding due to the neurological effects from my long term covid. I had a very difficult time learning dragonriding. It took me through all of beta and part of live to finally be able to use it.
For those who can’t dragonride, those requirements aren’t done. Some couldn’t get through the campaign because some parts require flying. Others can’t do treasure hunting or world quests easily enough without dragonriding. And none of it was mandatory. So they just didn’t do it.
Now it’s mandatory if they want the flight that they actually can do.
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I have a better question.
How come this issue doesnt affect anyone who is fine with DRing, yet they cannot help themselves but come into these threads insulting, attacking and demeaning those who arent?
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cant wait for the no pathfinder players chime in and say we need to do it
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Is thinking everyone likes dragonriding. 
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Metrics need to gtho. Period.
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yawwwwwwwn
If you don’t like Pathfinder I have a simple solution for you. Don’t do it.
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The same way everybody else does, by pushing buttons in response to what they see onscreen. That is, when they can see it. I have issues with flying at breakneck speed. My eyes do not track that way. It’s not a problem normally. I avoid “flying through the rings” quests because they are designed to challenge people with perfect reflexes and vision.
The real question is, as I said above, why is Blizzard fostering numerous discussion threads where players like you are attacking the disabled and claiming disability doesn’t exist?
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do you think thats it? time /played?
Im just thinking its about someones ego, but maybe its just a man hours thing
“Give us flight!”
“Ok, here’s this flight mode that’s 3x faster and you get it in the first zone.”
“No! Not like that!!!”
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See, that’s just it. I’m not attacking anyone. I asked a question as someone who seeks to understand because I don’t have a disability that limits me in such a way.
I could just not try to understand, wave my angry pitchfork and tell everyone who wants Blizzard to be inclusive to GTFO if you’d prefer that.
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Oh-kay, so use Dragonriding or a ground mount
Agreed, that’s why they introduced dragonriding
Oh-kay, that’s anecdotal but sure - here’s the next questions;
- Why not make use of the flightpoints?
- The dragons are excellent gliders as well so one could either take a flightpoint to a high point and glide or if one was able to point the camera straight up and hit the spacebar or a mouse keybind to make use of the “Skyward ascent and then glide to your location” trick, why not use that?
- How about the whelpling system, help your fellow players - lots of folks reported issues on this in the beta and once folks were introduced of the whelpling system the vast majority of players stopped complaining about it - after that point it became largely anecodatal stories akin to “think of the X” so why is the whelpling system not an option?
- Lots of folks have said they use ground mounts in DF and whilst it takes longer, generally speaking folks don’t seem to complain about that so why not use those?
Why are these solutions that people made use of in the beta and reported great effectiveness suddenly not feasible? If folks have greater issues than these, most folks typically play games with friends who can help them out in that case - after all, that’s how we have blind folks who can raid and have done so for years in WoW at this point
Renown 15 with any of 'em takes 15 weeks when done at the slowest possible pace
Do you not;
- Do world quests?
- Do dungeons?
- Do weekly quests?
- Kill things and turn in collectibles?
- The main storyline of each faction provides a good chunk of experience, haven’t you done that one either?
In short … do you play the game at all, or are you just creating a fictitious strawman here?
Ultimately I agree with folks who are asking “why even have it for DF” but don’t pretend these aren’t requirements that are “automatically done” by the vast majority of players, including those who are old, young, and have disabilities
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