who is supposed to appeal to? alliance?
Blood Elf fans. Presumably blood elf fans not too invested in the story.
Why would the horde hang onto it?
Well, they kind of have conquered that zone, why would they want to give it back?
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Itâs not like theyâve ever given up conquered territory when they had a change of heart over leadership.
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If weâre told that the night elves retook Darkshore, I have a hard time believing that they wouldnât have taken Ashenvale back as well. Besides the cities and leadership, and war fronts, Blizzard isnât going to move away from the status quo.
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Iâm contrary to that opinion.
The Nelfs only won Darkshore. We arenât told they pushed the Horde out of Ashenvale. Thereâs also the Felwood question on who owns it. Hopefully we get those answered.
Thereâs also Arathi. Consider that the stated war goal of the Alliance was just rebuilding Stromgarde to act as a bulwark for the Dwarves. Technically the Alliance only needed to hold it and the war was suddenly over. The fate of Hammerfell is a mystery.
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Or lose HyjalâŠ
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more likely that yea
I donât think it would shift her allegiance to the Horde. Why would it after all?
lets burn the other world trees
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âFive keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.â
3 down. 2 to go.
No, because the Alliance player is supposed to be a mindless drone that worships Anduinâs position no matter how many innocents died for his superficial take at âpeace.â
âUnityâ at all cost. Even your own soul.
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Beacuse a sect of former blood elves performed magic that could have harmed/compromised/harmful verbed the Sunwell, and blood elves love and adore the Sunwell = Valeera does not like that the Alliance now harbours people who threatened the sanctity of QuelâThalas.
Again, a theoretical discussion, but I believe it checks out.
she is more of a free agent.
Negotiations.
Give and take. If the Horde wants X, they can make the arrangement to remove military assets from it in exchange for X.
Right of conquest is good for expansionism but removes the option of diplomacy to its fullest capacity.
If kingdoms from our country could see the merit in that, at least for a period before returning to previous practices, it stands to reason that a highly militarized group, assembled for the purpose for survival, could see some merit in exchanging leverage for something positive.
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Well but knowing Anduinâs character, he will just give everything to the Horde to make it as comfortable as possible for them.
He wants peace at all costs.
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He is a royal. Theyâre groomed for leadership at birth, both on the battlefield and in politics.
Heâs not going to bend over backwards for the Horde. Itâs admirable that he strives for peace, but I donât think heâs that naive that heâd deliberately take an unfair deal by giving the Horde X without asking for something in exchange.
That and Ashenvale is more in the court of the Night Elves. Him being at the table during the discussion might be beneficial, though ultimately the terms must be seen agreeable by the Night Elves if that deal is going to happen (which, according to Tyrandeâs conversation with Shandris, she does not find them agreeable.)
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Understandably, because Anduin just throws away everything for a peace that lasts 2-3 years until the Horde attacks again (as history has proven). This time they will have an even easier time conquering Kalimdor with Ashenvale in their hands.
Anduin will probably be like âOh yea the Night Elves get Darkshore and the Horde gets Ashenvale, thatâs fairâ.
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He is accepting terms. Thatâs an important part of politics.
If the leader is benevolent, he serves the interest of the people. War is bad for civilization, as it affects a lot of aspects in both their personal, professional and communal lives.
If the leader serves his interests, carrying out a war beyond the point of exhaust can be disastrous to the future of the Kingdom and threatens to jeopardize his rule. There must be a time to recuperate over expenses.
No matter the person at the seat, communication, especially with your enemy, is important.
In that instance? I could see a little bit of give and take.
Horde demilitarizes Ashenvale and will not mobilize forces to attack or pass through Ashenvale. In exchange, the Horde is allowed to hunt game up to an agreed upon amount, with agreed upon expectations (only male elk, only during certain seasons, elk must be past their prime, etc), as well as harvest lumber up to a specific amount, in an agreed upon territory.
Why? Because fighting the Darnassian army over a territory that has a material coveted by the Horde is costly. Especially after how lethal both the events of Legion and BFA were.
Would the Night Elves like that? No, likely not.
Would a leader be willing to make that compromise to remove the populace from danger and de-escalate future threats from the Horde, should crisis emerge? Maybe.
Would a portion of the population take such grave offense to this that theyâd build an insurgent force to take the fight into their own hands and fulfill their own agenda? I donât know, maybe, but thatâs a whole other can of worms.
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