Patch 8.3: Peace Treaty Questline

Valeera smh.

Here’s to hoping she’s still just allied to “Wrynn” and not the Alliance.

so far, that doesn’t seem to be different.

oh come on, you can always obligate them! :eyes:

Well, that’s the thing. Canonically, she identifies as Sin’dorei. If she brands herself as loyal to the Alliance, as opposed to being (let’s be honest) spymistress of Anduin, this presents a pretty pooey situation. That being said, in this patch-long period of peace, the two don’t seem to be different; Valeera could well be the the express delivery service of communication between Horde and Alliance leaders.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see what flavour of misery is in store for us RE Valeera.

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People can change. Maybe seeing everything they’ve done and having Void Elves join up with the Alliance led to her deciding to hell with the Horde. She is allowed to go against the grain of her people despite Blizzard usually presenting races as having few to no turncoats.

Well Blizzard hasnt added a new Battleground in ages so story wise the faction conflict doesnt have much purpose for gameplay, at least for now.

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Not sure about that. I think they just took the participation approach and used Warfronts for the faction conflict where everyone is a winner.
Might see more of the AI opponent stuff since they have been using that new AI a lot this expansion.

They recently added Seething Shore.

At the risk of unfairly cutting off one piece of a post from a larger subject…

… I do take issue with this. If a hard faction split was such a good idea then other games that used it would’ve found success with it. Instead games like SWTOR, Wildstar, Warhammer, ESO, Rift and probably many others more were dragged down by that design. Even if we want to blame other design elements for those games decline the faction didn’t help matters. As you need not only enough overall players on each faction but enough players for specific niches (Raiding, PvP, Crafting, Roleplay etc…) for the game to thrive. And an artificial divide like the faction split only hurts that in the long run.

The only thing I can really think of that it accomplishes is, in the vein of a lot of early WoWs design, it simplifies things. When you made a character in Everquest for instance that characters race would like some races, hate some other races… maybe hate and be hated by all the other races. But it was up to you what you did with that. You could build on those foundations or reject them. Want to be an ogre that pals around with human paladins? With enough work you can do that. Want to be an elf that hangs out with trolls in the swamps? You can do that. But WoW sets you in stone. Tells you these are your friends, these are your enemies, and that just is until the end of time. And at 15 years in I think we’ve long since reached the point where that static idea, that simplicity, has ceased being in the games benefit.

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Unless…he does it incognito, specifically to start a new war.

After all, “War is good for business.”

He showed Azerite to Sylvanas. He did not suggest attacking Teldrassil or the Night Elven Territories… She was already going to invade Stormwind before Gallywix showed her the Azerite. She of course would have used the motives she gave Saurfang as the public ones.

Wars to attack the Alliance territories will likely be avoided by Gallywix. If Alliance Armies try to but in he will drive them away while trying to avoid assaulting the Alliance’s own territories.

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We need another faction war to reclaim ashenvale then it seems like.

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Au contraire, the void elves being booted out and joining the Alliance would have shifted her “allegiance” more towards the Horde than it would the Alliance. Theoretically, of course.

She is, yeah, but you can’t be allied to a Horde city but serve the Alliance. Just doesn’t work that way. Of course, Valeera isn’t like that atm, but still.

To be honest, I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t care what somebody who serves the king of my enemy says about their allegiances. She’s Alliance whether she likes it or not.

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Yet she also is Horde, undoubtedly. How does one reconcile such a “hypocrisy”? Simple: loyal to Wrynn, loyal to Quel’Thalas. I daresay it might be best to consider her ‘factionless’?

shrugs Not anymore apparently considering she represents the Alliance instead of being hostile to them for the first time ever. Does she actually say anything about why she’s there when you talk to her?

i don’t know, i never felt that she cared about quelthalas, she was at first ressented towards them.

or maybe she likes alleria or something.

I think it’s also a weak move by Blizzard, in that they worked out the council on the Horde side with all its strengths and weaknesses and they presented the Alliance councils mostly in the book and if they did ingame then only one or two NPC’s had dialogue options.

In fact, the politically intriguing was the great chic for the Alliance of Lordaeron. It wasn’t an order from anyone.

Ultimately, Blizzard will make it easy with the highking, and then the Alliance will look exactly like the Warchief and repeat the Horde plot, but on the Alliance side.

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I think what happened is, she was written as a character for a comic at a time when the Blood Elves were considered very cool and the writers of the comic wanted to pretend there was equal Horde representation in order to get more readers. So while it makes more sense for her to be a starving High Elf who was caught thieving and then sold into slavery. Or for her to decide that the Horde isn’t the right fit for her after befriending a human king and a night elf druid and become a high elf, neither of those things trump her needing to be a Blood Elf for future marketing.

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they probably need to develop her a little more so we can know a little more about her.
i don’t think that i have seen her in recent novels.
Apart from the legion class order she just… kinda shows up in the baine quests.

Maybe they need to develop her more, maybe they don’t. But on the off chance that they will develop her more, they’re not going to sabotage the character by alienating the section of the playerbase she’s designed to appeal too.