The GearScore crap didn’t hit my server hard until around Icecrown. I remember PuG’ing Onyxia. They wanted a 5k GearScore for that PuG. My friend convinced them to let me bring my 4k DK in. Reluctantly, they did. I was in the middle of the DPS for single target, and #1 for AoE by far. Yes, this is anecdotal but it does indicate the problem with GearScore as an entry requirement.
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In my experience, parsing nerds are just annoying and toxic, so not fun to be around…
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The crowds are the same, just the 1 crowd kills bosses and has fun and the other wipes to bosses and has fun.
Not necessarily, not decursing/dispelling because it hurts your parse, isn’t helping clear content. Along with not killing certain adds because they dont count in logs/take away from your parse in some way. I get where they are coming from, but actual parsing guilds usually have content on farm before they focus on parses and rotating buffs, so its a non issue. But then there is guilds who aren’t clearing content, worried about parses.
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Says the person who camps lowbes…
Healers should be able to handle decurse/dispels. If you have a min/max comp (which I’m expecting if you’re a group going for parses) then you should have a couple dks and 1 or 2 fire mages that will cleave the hell out of any adds anyway by doing ST, add to that most of your dps players will be playing engineer with sapper charges/grenades.
The thing is min/maxing is the way to get better at clearing content, and parsing is a mini-game around getting better at min/maxing. While you can prob clear content while being “sub-optimal” you definitely will struggle more than a guild that will push to min/max generally as more dps in all my years in wow has always made fights easier. Bosses just die quicker and you have to do less mechanics and healers have to conserve mana less so they can heal more, etc.
Eh, I check my parses sometimes just to see my top end performance, it’s nice to see those 80s and 90s but I don’t really worry over it.
I do think it’s funny that my razorscale parse is only like a 67, why I can’t seem to get higher on him when I do so on everything else I’m not sure 
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Some people probably worry too much over it, if it’s in the greens or greys and you’re not undergeared then it’s probably something to take notice of and think about but besides that not super important usually.
Couple reasons. First of all, 2h unholy is what I played in OG WotLK. I like swinging a 2h weapon around, and this expansion has a lot of cool 2h weapons. Second, only having to farm one weapon is easier than farming two. Finally, DW morb has a convoluted rotation that doesn’t sound fun at all.
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I like this guys videos because he obviously plays at a high level, but similar to Jordee he has a huge misunderstanding about the majority of players.
The divide in Parse minded players and Raid efficient players on Yogg 0 is a very small portion of the overall player base, considering that the majority of players haven’t even attempted it yet. Just killing Yogg 0 would give you a purple parse due to the few people who’ve completed it.
I only bring up Jordee too because in his Ulduar overview he realistically thought Dad guilds should have had 3+ HMs down week 1… It’s just now hitting week 10 and we’re finally seeing those numbers.
Intentionally doing less damage griefing your raid for personal reasons, what a team player. How can you complain about parses with that selfish mentality?
Sure MM hunter does “just fine” competing with the tank in dps, i really wanted to play it but surv is just better so i had to make the switch
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The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
He actually makes a great point. You say it’s selfish that people value getting high parses over the success of the raid. But you clearly value playing a “meme spec” over the success of the raid yourself… So who’s to say one is “right” and the other isnt?? If you were really THAT concerned about the success of the raid, you’d play a spec that performs it’s role at least moderately optimally…
And given the two, I’m much more likely to pick the selfish parser with the optimal spec because, while still contributing less than they could due to their “parse selfishness,” at the very least the results of their selfishness more directly align with the ultimate goal of the raid than “I want to use a 2h because I think it’s cool.”
I can assure you I do far more DPS then the tanks. I may not be top DPS in the raid, but I’m certainly not the lowest either. If the GM had a problem with me playing 2h, he would talk to me about it. Because I got Worldcarver within the first week or two of Ulduar (which was considered 2nd BiS for unholy in OG WotLK Ulduar phase), I won’t be needing any more weapons until we kill hard mode Vezax. This frees up more weapons for other people in the raid. How am I not being a team player again?
2h unholy which was considered perfectly normal in OG WotLK is now a meme spec? Yeah, ok. 
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And the excuses come flying out. Its almost always projection with people like yourself. Attack everyone else and how they like to play and it turns out you cant even be bothered to try lol. Parse big bad though
I could probably tell you why exactly but there’s some obvious razorscale parsing tips
kill it in 1 phase (if it goes up again, you lose)
every second its alive and you aren’t lusted - dps loss
saving trinket icds for the boss itself (the adds do not count for parses)
Yea when we focus it down we’ve forced her to stay grounded when she first lands but I think a bunch of our runs were a bit iffy because of attempts to burn iron dwarves for the achievement which is definitely a distraction, myself as a Death knight I abstained from using pestilence or army as I didn’t want any damage on guardians I can’t control or unwanted taunts going around which kind of messes with me a little.
But that’s done on 10 and 25 now for most of us(some new people) so I’ll be looking at it in the coming weeks to see if it changes.
You realize healers parse too, right? As do tanks.
Healers parses have always been a meme. Because in a good group, you’re not supposed to parse.
Never talked about tanks. Tanks are free to min/max, as long as they are a prot paladin 
Parses are great for recruiting. If someone consistently parses higher than his entire guild, he is guaranteed a better player, either mechanically, research-wise, or both. If you have an attitude of wanting to improve, that to me is a huge plus.
Now if the whole guild are solid players with a fair amount of raiding experience, and kill times are good, then it’ll be impossible not to parse decently. Here anyone can probably parse 80+ just by spamming one spell or auto shot etc.
Heal parses seem less important; it just shows who has the most haste or best latency, or juiciest assigns. I don’t play heal on classic so maybe I’m missing something there.
Tank parses I consider meaningless, warr tank parses in tbc were basically actively trolling the entire raid group by sacrificing mit for more dps
The main thing that I’d say about healing, is the less healers you bring the more normally your healers should be skilled. Being able to bring less healers is a really big difference.
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Not true at all, you can parse better than someone who is better than you if you put your mind to it, there is a guy in my horde guild who parses between 90-95 while the rest of the group generally struggles in the 75-85 range, but he has wiped them dozens of times and any in depth review of his logs reveal him as a completely parse motivated player, on freya for example he won’t kick anything, he won’t switch to roots, he won’t attack a gift, he plays the blade flurry cleave spec to pad damage into anything he can. I would not recruit him ever for any role, he will do anything he can to look better on warcraft logs including avoiding doing anything that is a dps loss at all
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