Parses/raider IO/sims are whats killing wow

Note that this typically applies only to the very top end of parses. The vast majority of people involved in logs are not cheesing mechanics. The top 100-200, sure, they’re at the top likely due to a combination of focused buffs (PI), good RNG, and min-maxing optional consumables.

But all heroic fights and lots of early nathria fights have well over 100k parses for pretty much each spec and class, except the weakest of the weak (i.e. demo lock). The vast majority are just playing their class as they can, and aren’t getting funneled specifically for the sake of parsing. So expecting ‘orange’ parses is crazy, that comes from good luck, extremely good play, and funneling - but purple parses? That comes down to good play, pure and simple.

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Don’t know. Never bothered to cry and whine and ask why they didn’t invite me. I just moved on until I got into a group or started my own

None. I usually play within the limits that’s expected from my class/gear.

Only once, and it was just to check stat weights honestly. I don’t fully understand the simming process.

But thanks for asking!

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5 Heroic raid items in your one Castle Nathria clear OP. You’re one lucky rogue.

Hearthstone is a PRIME example. Why is that not in wow? You could literally add cards to EVERY SINGLE boss you’ve ever created. BOOM you have an enjoyable game that people can go around and collect it. Then you add a in-game hearthstone tournament to the darkmoon Faire. See how easy it is bliz?

Or you could do a racing mini game that let’s ppl use their mount in the race. Na instead were gonna get a Rollercoaster that is a complete waste of dev time… joy…

I jumped on that coaster ONCE and I didn’t even finish riding it cus it was so damn lame. Like woooooow, this is the best ur team can do?!?!?!

Swear if it wasn’t for my guild and how much I enjoy playing with em I’d have dropped this game along time ago. Good thing raiding atleast is fun, cus world content and m+ sure are not.

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Why does it matter? Because you might not get so lucky next time. Carrying someone who can’t perform hinders the ability to clear content. Same reason why you don’t want to keep carrying someone who funnels the boss, doing great damage, but messing up every mechanic. Puts additional strain and what not on the entire group to make up for those blunders.

When used correctly warcraft logs is to help yourself or the friends in your guild improve so that you can more easily kill bosses.

Sometimes bad parses happen but if you’re consistently grey parsing there is room for improvement. I would recommend running those logs through wowanalyzer and seeing what it says you could improve on.

Use the tools to your advantage and ignore the haters.

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Just make your own group bro.

Its soooo easy.

Dude, you got kicked from that group because you were objectively a liability for Denathrius.

Do yourself a solid, and accept that. Starting yet another dumpster fire is not going to do anything but attract more people to call you bad.

for that boss no. But when the next fight is not only the hardest and consists of several dps checks, a super low dps player is a liability.

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When you make posts whining about being kicked for “no reason”, and people point out all the reasons it’s far from elitists doing anything.

But yes yes we know, casuals would rather this game be made so LFR was the end-game and there was no need to improve and no way to tell if you could improve. Thankfully Blizzard doesn’t seem interested in ever going down this route.

How does this impact the future of this game? This was all available when the game was 12 million strong. And it’s not as if parsing wasn’t a thing back in Wrath.

Funniest thing is most of the toxicity that stems from external utilities used to improve at the game originates from casuals that have egos bigger than they should.

OP very easily could have made a post asking ways to improve, and there’d have been a swarm of people eager to help him or point him in a direction to where people are that can help him. But no, instead he wants to act egotistical and got exposed.

Because even at this point in the tier, Sire’s DPS check is still a very real thing some groups have to be mindful of. And if you’ve given someone 9 bosses to figure it out and they still can’t do more damage than tanks removing the problem before it is causing the wipes helps keep the entire group together.

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Sorry but I don’t wanna wipe on Phase 1 Sire because we can’t kill him before Remornia paints the whole room red.

Make ur ow guild. Make ur own groups set ur own standards. Invite ppl with grey parses and 100 io score.

Don’t complain about about io pls. I have made enough key groups to know that io is actually making it better for pugging . So are parses in raids. The only way to tell if someone has bought a boost is to look up their parse. It saves u doing 1 pull because reality check as soon as u notice their dps isn’t up there ur going to kick them anyway. It saves u from inviting people that are very likely not upto the standard u want them to be.

People voicing their opinions is how a society decides what is or isn’t acceptable. I agree with everything the OP says, however, I am more likely to roll w/the punches because I like a challenge. My issue isn’t the challenge but the way people treat each other in game and on the forums.

I should risk going to lfr to just see how people actually do this on sire

More people like this please!

Use your own key and make a group

“+12 Yolo HOA - NO META CLASSES”

You’ll have more fun and be pleasantly surprised when a Survival hunter does great AOE. Side note… the players are grateful to be there and might not ditch the first time a pull goes wonky.

Doesn’t happen.

LFR Sire is pretty easy.

This earns a big ‘yikes’ from me.

wait they dont have a fill the room and kill everyone mechanics? Damn

The mechanics are there in LFR, but LFR Sire is just stupid easy.