Dang, I went back and reread my source and it in fact mentions that the alpha client was the only thing leaked. So yeah, they do only use original code. So really if they changed all the names/quest text/positions or models of npcs it would be a legal server. Huh.
The client is not server code my friend.
If you still have your 1.12 client; thats way more “data” than an alpha client thats utterly useless outside of seeing the alpha maps / tool tips.
Additionally thr client houses very little, those private server developers have done a massive amount of work to get to where they are.
Its popular to claim theyre authentic, but doing so seriously undermines how darn much work they have actually done to bring vanilla back to life. Those private servers are no small task, the literal tens of thousands of hours put in to get to where they are should not be ignored.
It wasnt but a few years ago when the most authentic version was nost… now thats looked at as a crude version.
Every iteration has improved over the last, becausr they put a lot of time and effort into polishing the private server experience.
I am the last one whos trying to sell these servers, but dont undermine what they built by claiming its using a blizard data base; brcause thats just not so.
Thr only thing “blizzard” about their data base is the data they glean from the client, and thats not an authentic blizzard server; its an emulation.
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This was my meaning. It’s why I mentioned the few ways to make it a legal server that blizzard can’t touch because blizzard’s content wouldn’t be there.
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The problem is if you put one of these servers up in the United States or any other nation where they are “subjects” of the united states; you’re likely to get harassed endlessly by lawyers regardless of the legality of the situation.
I don’t personally agree with using lawyers in that way, but it’s what large companies do because they have the money to bend the rules to their advantage.
It’s not a good situation, and it’s the sort of thing that takes place not only in big companies but in any large organization that has lots of money. Political establishments do this same nonsense to people they disagree with.
Only in the top tier “optimal only” groups. Everyone else won’t care.
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What affects the critical and hit chance of judgements and seals? Does anyone know? I can’t remember.
There are legal actions that can be taken to stop the harassment up to criminal charges should the harassment not stop. That being said, they could “hire” people to harass you independently, but if you aren’t really competing it probably wouldn’t be worth the effort at that point unless they were some sort of zealots.
Spell cit if I recall correctly, but the items that give +1% crit also affect abilities, so you don’t actually need to go for specific gear. Stacking Agility won’t increase that critical hit rate though, just your autos and I think procced attacks.
Spell hit/crit with SoCommand being the exception, but it does scale somewhat from spell damage.
Except you are by definition wrong. Owning a server emulation is both illegal in the EULA and copyright laws.
What you want to say is, “Bliizard does not actually care about server emulation.”
Which would be correct, however it is still by defintion illegal and if Bliizard for no other reason then it wanted to, could take legal action. You can argue all you want but the law says otherwise.
Well said!
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EULAs are very difficult to uphold in a court of law and the vanilla EULA applied only to your right to play on Blizzard servers. As for having your own emulation, it is not illegal. What is illegal is the act of sharing that content without consent. Should one make a server that references purchased content, without copying anything else that is not it wouldn’t be illegal as you aren’t giving away Blizzard’s intellectual property.
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Seal hit is based on whether or not your weapon hits iirc. As long as white weapon damage happens, so will the Seal.
I think Seal damage even happens off of glancing blows, which makes the Precision talent in Prot all the more important. We just need to make sure every hit is at least a glancing if it does proc the full Seal damage…SPELLADINS.
Unauthorized Connections: Facilitate, create or maintain any unauthorized connection to the Platform including without limitation (i) any connection to any unauthorized server that emulates, or attempts to emulate, the Platform; and (ii) any connection using third-party programs or tools not expressly authorized by Blizzard.
Sorry there pal but you are wrong still. EULA are only difficult to up keep in court, based on region the reproduction exists or lack of evidence of said reproduction existing. If you wanted to be super technical Blizzard holds the right to terminate any users game license for simply admitting to the use or ownership of an illegal emulation of the items. Since this is the United States I highly doubt your argument holds any water without a specific jurisdiction stating.
So… how does ELUA stuff apply to Paladins again? Let’s keep it on topic.
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Sorry, but you own the data you put on your computer as a result of your purchase. That means that blizzard can only terminate your access to their servers not your private use of the data on your computer. Blizzard can’t without permission uninstall the exe and data on your computer without your permission.
That said, the EULA says they can terminate your access for any reason they think of and not just the reasons you stated.
Also emulations aren’t illegal, otherwise your home made board games that 100% copy the official ones would be an illegal possession, which they are not.
That’s all I have to say on the subject.
Man you derailed your own topic earlier and others did it as well, you can even fault me at this point.
And no, you own the rights to your license which gives you the right to that data. Hence any violation of your right to own that license then revokes the right to the data. Also you do not sign a legally binding agreement when you buy Monopoly. Your attempt at a strawman is honestly really bad, even the other paladins were doing better.
That said, the EULA says they can terminate your access for any reason they think of and not just the reasons you stated.
O hey look, you agreeing then disagreeing about the exact same topic within the same post. Your post and reasoning is only valid if you were given permission to own the copy and data within what you purchase. Which you do not with game, it is why there are multiple addendum regarding in illegal ripping, use, mining, and various other outlets to use the data.
The exception would be in cases of buying a game within the realm of a disc, a cartridge, or other physical copies. However the laws within the U.S. state the difference between console productions, digital downloads, and all other versions of electronic game distribution follow their respective laws within their mediums.
It is a copy of Data from WoW, not Pokemon Red. It is illegal, Blizzard is a business and does not care because it would hurt their business. However, simply proving you own one of these servers or admitting it, is legal grounds for them to perma lock your account if they so wish.
You couldn’t even be bothered to quote the EULA directly, or look up the laws on the matter. You could of at least tried harder to make a valid argument.
If there’s one thing this thread has succeeded in, it’s reminding me why I stopped hardcore raiding in Wrath. I’ll be with the rets and boomkins and whatever other “suboptimal” specs people can come up with in Classic, wiping on trash and having fun.
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Sure sounds fun, I plan on getting some retribution gear just to try it out.
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