It’s been said over and over again, Blizzard wants to keep twisting in, they want all seals to persist for a short period of time after switching.
They asked for feedback on how it was working, it was provided. They have not called out that they don’t want certain seals to be twistable. They can chime in whenever they like and say it. Until then, your arguments that they intended something one way or the other is fallacious, because they haven’t explicitly said it. They haven’t said anything else about twisting since the last blue post about it, which was left mostly nebulous.
I said it before and will keep doing so. If paladins get two-way twisting then I want Hunters to get a special game modification to make the one-button macro work like it did in classic.
Any other class, the line starts behind me to get your special DPS improvement requests on the list.
Cool, but TBC broke the Hunter one button macro so if Pallys get dual-twisting as a special change, I think it only fair each class get the same treament.
As a Hunter I think I can speak for many when I say we would like a special change to make the macro work again.
Yes, we have also long since established that the patch note is poorly worded to be reflective of the actual patch.
I’d be shocked if the patch note people did anything other than copy / paste the original blue post when it was made and never checked if it remained precisely worded as the mechanic was adjusted.
There was also a patch note in vanilla that says that SoR can now proc weapon effects, but that also doesn’t apply to all of them.
And your assumption of the meaning of a patch note has had you doing the same thing you accuse me of.
The difference is that my interpretation of things aligns with the state of seal twisting in the time leading up to, and after the launch of the most recent classic patch, and is still how things are on the beta.
My interpretation is 100% based on the communication that was given to us that I’ve stated many many times is nebulous. It could literally go either way. This thread is to discuss why we think it should be one way or the other based on gameplay.
I’m providing my feeling on the topic, not an opinion on what Blizzard intended. That is the primary difference here. You are attempting to make our feelings irrelevant based upon your interpretation of what you assume development and communication standards to be inside blizzard. Are you catching on yet? People are trying to have a discussion - you are trying to shut it down. Maybe go post in your own thread that didn’t gain traction.
I’ve pretty much just left counterpoints to the arguments. That’s not the same as trying to shut it down.
I don’t really bother countering every post in here that just says “I like it, please bring it back.”
I do shoot down things that try to play it off as not really a notable change, or that blizzard somehow actually intended to make 2 way twisting the new normal but accidentally didn’t.
The main issue behind the discussion on which form of twisting to take is that there really is nothing behind 2 way twisting other than “I like it better and want the rough draft version back.”
It’s fine if you have that stance, but it is in no way a popularity contest in getting it implemented or not. The thread you bring up is basically just a breakdown of why it is a break from TBC design as a feedback thread. I felt no need to spam links to it around, keep it bumped, etc., Because the post count in it or the likes on it isn’t relevant.
Totally agree, the batching changes they made recently has totally messed up way too much, like the drums problem, I think they need to go back to the drawing board on batching and try something new.
It broke your dual-twisting and broke my Hunter macro. It may have broke other things that some classes have just not found out about yet that.
You are either an idiot or intentionally disingenuous if you believe that paladin seals where meant to be stacked on a single swing…
It was an unintended exploit then, and is still against the design of the class now… blizz blues being stupid enough to endorse it in a post, doesn’t change that… these are the same people who think LWer/Drums are now “fixed”…