Left is 2006 400ms/Right is 2021 10ms
Paladins wanted the game to work like 2006 and we expect reckoning to be set at 400ms with it’s own 2006 batching using new 2021 batching.
Problem: Reckoning is working on 10ms
Solution: Reckoning should work on 400ms
The way to fix this is to give the talent reckoning its own specific spell batching like blizzard did with seal twists.
https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20182/reckoning
3 self crits of reckoning and redoubt in 12 seconds in original 2006 classic 400ms batching is what we should have, exactly like on the left.
Not 3 self crits in 269 seconds at 10ms in the 2021 10ms video on the right…
10ms gives paladins almost no window of opportunity to proc self crits with reckoning. 10ms is not blizzlike at 400ms. Reckoning only gets nerfed in TBC. This is an insult to paladins who play classic for that spell in PvP. Without that spell working classic is dead for paladins. As Esfand admits it’s bugged.
Both the 2006 videos were merged into one video on the left.
This needs fixing for Season of Mastery Look how many times reckoning in original classic was able to proc in a short amount of time compared to 10ms reckoning we have now.
Why nerf reckoning to 10ms when we have a seal of command to seal of righteousness seal twisting that shouldn’t even exist? We are given a specific spell batching for seal twisting but Seal of command to Seal of righteousness Never existed in 2006, only seal of command and justice, light, wisdom or the crusader yet we have righteousness now.
At least remove righteousness seal twists and add reckoning it’s own spell batching to imitate 2006 reckoning procs.
Reckoning procs were proccing perfectly prior to the hand of justice macro nerf. Blizzard we know you can separate the hand of justice from reckoning with its own reckoning specific spell batching. Please fix it for Seasons of Mastery. Reckoning was working fine all the way in 2019 until hand of justice was nerfed because of this macro.
The very thing that ruined and caused reckoning to be nerfed. I noticed after this was changed reckoning was also ruined. It isn’t fair. It’s not the trinket and reckoning benefits spell batching.
If that one macro for the hand of justice never existed, reckoning would still be working as of today fine.
The fix: It hasn’t been separated from reckoning and the only way to fix this redoubt/Reckoning problem so it’s identical to original 2006 classic is to give reckoning and redoubt the exact same treatment you have seal twisting so it can be used at 400ms and not 10ms.
After all of those hits with all of the mobs on the right side of the video in 2021 classic we are getting only 3 redoubt procs or reckoning crits from forced sits. This is a joke. Forced sits were not bugs and were used and worked in classic. Saying they are a bug is like saying seal twisting is a bug and shouldn’t exist. Both worked through spell batching and need spell batching to work.
On the left side 2006 classic you can see how much more procs proc in such a short period of time.
We love you Blizzard and hope you fix reckoning and redoubt by adding a 400ms for them specifically and not every spell. It took over 4.5 minutes of the 2021 (right sided) video to get 3 self crits and in the 2006 classic (left side) it took a paladin with 1 spider mob 12 seconds to get 3 procs of redoubt/Reckoning self crits What does that say?
Also a crit in the right side 2021 video happened at 0 seconds? Smallhead said? Even if it happened we don’t include it?
Why? Because the first self crit in both videos start at almost thesame time 30-34 seconds
At 0:30 seconds in first crit in 2006 At 0:34 seconds is first crit in 2021
He has literally timed the 2021 and 2006 first crit charges so close together so both paladins get the first crit at 30-34 seconds in each of their videos 2006 classic (left side) 30 to 42 seconds and 3 self crits
So it’s 3 charges in 12 seconds at 400ms 2021 classic (right side) 34 to 303 seconds gave 3 self crits
So it’s 3 charges in 269 seconds at 10ms If this isn’t fixed then reckoning is not working as intended since it is depowered compared in 2006. In other words you’ve triple nerfed it in classic. And we all know reckoning wasnt triple nerfed until TBC.
Please reply blizzard Thank you
2006 sources used
Blizzard you have in the not a bug blue post
- Being critically struck while using /sit to sit does not cause abilities like Enrage, Blood Craze, and Reckoning to activate.
Yet these 2 videos prove the spell batching while /sit to sit allows us to get reckoning charges baxk in 2006. So it clearly should be fixed.
Left side of video is original 2006 Classic WoW/Right side of video is 2021 1.13.7 Classic WoW
Left side of video 0:30/Right side of video 0:00 redoubt (click more to read for reckoning/redoubt)
Left side of video 0:34/Right side of video 0:34 redoubt (34.5 seconds right side)
Left side of video 0:42/Right side of video 2:04 redoubt
Left side of video 0:52/Right side of video 5:03 redoubt
Left side of video 2:40 was first charge
Left side of video 2:56 was second charge
Left side of video 2:58 was third charge
Left side of video 3:00 was fourth final charge
Starting at 2nd charge
Left side of video 4:09
Left side of video 4:12
Left side of video 4:14
5 mobs against 1 mob in first part
5 mobs against against 2 mobs in the second part
Final part of the right video is a test to see if it procced on one mob compared to the spider mob
If you wanted it to be nerfed you should of done it earlier. I’m sorry but I think it shouldn’t be nerfed. I Think 10ms batching should remain for other spells like crowd controls. It’s because getting two shadowbolts in one charm is far more overpowered than stacking reckoning bomb from an npc. We have shamans double critting 2k for 4k. And we have to stack from an npc to hit 4k.