P2 is only 3 weeks

Just naxx really, because it was out for such a short time and people gave up on it quickly.

A lot of people experienced earlier raids, hell on manno we used to just grab randos from IF to fill our MCs after BWL was on farm because it only took 20 guildies to do it, many people got to see raids even if they didn’t have guilds.

What is this crap im reading . How does releasing Naxx early spell the end of classic?

Your evidence for this is …? Casual guilds use logs too.

Only takes one person to log too.

This mentality you’re spouting is what led us to LFR and the situation on retail where everyone is a winner and everyone has the same gear.

At this point, talking about “phase 2 and phase 3” is pointless. Blizzard has been splitting Dire Maul and the Honor System, and now they’ve been splitting the Battlegrounds and Blackwing Lair. It’s not the same plan anymore.

Looks like we will be in Naxx by shadowlands, sucks they couldnt let classic be classic so we could go through it over 2 years and then move on to tbc or classic+.

Its ok though, the pserver scene will be able to give us a better vanilla experience once blizzard blows their shot.

Nah, LFR was Activision saying “why do we spend so much money on content only 20% or less of the playerbase sees”

It’s why DS was such a trash heap, if LFR didn’t succeed i bet retail would have either lost raiding or we wouldn’t have seen another raid tier that wasn’t short and rehashed assets.

I was hoping they’d just release WSG early and leave the rest for an actual phase 3, but I mean damn this is just rushed.

It’s not P3. They had to release the BGs early because the game is pretty bad in its current pvp state. BGs made original vanilla better and will make classic better. This is a positive thing.

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My evidence? Observation. I see MANY more guilds running MC/Pugging people than are on that list, and thats just Horde. My guild has had MC on farm for a month and we just started logging last week.

Not everyone uses them, especially the more casual guilds.

And where is your evidence that those guilds are struggling to clear MC?

Nothing points to naxx by shadowlands.

Math on raid releases points to Naxx by April 2021 at the EARLIEST, and that’s assuming they follow a much shorter release schedule on ZG

I’m not, releasing BG’s with the honor system would have been the smart, logical thing to do. You do realize we’re talking about Blizzard here, right?

The fact that they end up spamming the day after LFM Golemag on.

You dont honestly think every group of players has the coordination/gear to 1 shot MC in 2 hours every week do you?

This is Classic also. If you want competition go play a competitive game. Not a 15year old one.

You do realize that Blizzard is releasing the content to my liking and not yours, right? You do realize I made a thread you whined in, calling for BG’s to release in December, right?

I think I’ll stay right here on Classic, thanks.

… I didn’t know you commanded so much authority around Blizzard…

I can’t face palm hard enough.

You also play Retail so yes, they’ve been catering to your crowd for 10 years after the game was ruined so gg.

Why? You’re telling me people will quit because all the content is available? That makes no sense. Also people saying the game is going to end? What were you thinking, everyone knew there is an end to the content. What’s the difference between it coming out in 2019 or 2021? If you were going to play classic for a few years anyway why does it matter if all raids are available?

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God you kids will cry about anything.

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