You get transmogs, pets, mounts, toys, AND gear that us best in class for that type of content.
what
Casual v Hardcore is dictated entirely by how much you play.
Spending 8 hours a day in the game (or on the forums) and accomplishing nothing doesn’t make you a casual, and spending an hour a day but getting stuff done doesn’t make you hardcore.
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If that BE had an epic beard like that I might believe them!
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You are literally arguing entirely based on feelings and are complaining about him being a jerk.
Really? Really?
How many times has he pointed out that PvP and M+ both reward high level gear?
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No one will stop you from raiding and getting gear. zero people have suggested that. At no time has anyone suggested you should not get gear from raiding.
You just want to be a special snowflake and be the ONLY ONE to get gear, so it HAS to be from raiding. Because your feelings cant handle it if someone who plays a few hours a day might actually end up with a 233 item somehow omg the end of the world how will you sleep at night knowing some rando gots a cool weapon because he spent the last month doing WQ’s???
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Sure. But I was trying to get a specific person who was harping on “content” to respond. They dodged.
Ok. If thats the way we are gonna play it.
I don’t think casuals should get better gear due to the fires that effected Australia last year.
Every casual only wants to do the same type of content?
Interesting.
No it is not. A casual can play just as much if not more than someone who plays the game hardcore. They just play it differently. A casual is someone who prefers long grinding - typically solo - to group difficulty based content.
Spoken like a true casual
Everyone and their mother has a different definition of casual
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Are you not able to raid or something? And why would anyone bother to raid increasing difficulties if the same gear can be acquired elsewhere more easily?
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That is the stupidest definition of casual I’ve ever read.
“yeah, lemme just casually grind out The Insane 15 hours at a time”.
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I have literally not even once brought this up. It’s completely irrelevant.
Also completely irrelevant and nothing I’ve mentioned. This is just more personal attacks.
As has been said, there are plenty of ways to get gear - and WQs still reward gear. It’s just not good enough in your opinion.
All the really good MMORPG players I’ve known, and since 1996 I’ve known quite a few, never cared about what gear others could get as long as they got their challenge and could beat it with what they had.
That “ePeen” superiority complex comes from another breed of players, who aren’t really good, but think they somehow deserve more than other subscribers. The same kind of players who stand near the mailbox for hours on the latest rare mount thinking anyone cares. People who think everybody will inspect them and cares for their gear.
People in serious need of a reality check.
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I miss the multiboxer rage threads.
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Because whats the point of playing the game if i grinded the content to get the gear and this guy gets the same quality i do just for existing. Its no different than working in real life. You’d feel a way if you’re busting your butt everyday at work to get bonuses and the least hard working person in your company got the same bonus for showing up.
Also YOU have the mindset issue if you’re going to boil down this whole conversation to “people don’t want casuals to have loot”.
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That’s literally what it means to be a casual. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not the definition.
Most casuals have rarely or ever done a M+ and don’t raid. What exactly do you think you are arguing against people who want world content to reward gear?
Hint: it’s not people who do M+2’s and LFR. It’s people who spend time in the game differently than you do. You are just so focused on your esport that you literally can’t comprehend how someone else plays the game differently than you do.
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I’ve always just defined casual as some who approaches the game in a relaxed way.
I have no problem with someone calling themselves a casual mythic raider, they probably don’t make CE but they kill bosses. They’re not forcing raid members to play certain classes or specs, they probably have a large bench so that they don’t really have harsh penalties for not making raid, etc.
Casual doesn’t mean bad, but a lot of people seem to think that. There’s a lot of ex-hardcore raiders that have gone casual.
If that’s really your stance then you are doing a terrible job articulating it.
If you want casuals to have a gear progression path from WQ then advocate something like manapearls where you could get heroic quality gear just from doing dailies and WQ. But instead you’re being combative, falling back on nonsensical arguments and personal attacks.
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For me, I don’t care what other players have. But I recognize that changing up the gear progression to such an extreme would kill my interest in doing harder content. I’m not the kind of player who puts themselves through a terrible grind just for the sake of saying
“Ah did eet”
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Your definition of casual is more insane than the title Awkward mentioned.