simply testing human compassion for other races. obviously human are racist and failed, literally tried to own slaves. Humans are the true evil race in WoW.
And Thalyssra being the First Arcanist was meant to be one of if not the most powerful mage alive in Azeroth with literally over 10k+ years of experience, but the writers love humans too much so some human mage is the most powerful one ever because the plot often requires, makes total sense.
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I appreciate your name combined with this post.
I do think Alliance tends to have stronger “Hero Characters”. Especially since most of the strong Horde ones end up ditching the Horde and becoming their own entity.
But that aside, keep in mind the average Warcraft Human is a roid raging freak by actual Human standards. Orcs are still bigger, but it’s not THAT inconceivable that Humans could win, especially with a numbers advantage (not sure if we have any stats on that).
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You replied to someone who did though.
Who was defeated by a dagger in her back. Also lets not forget the Guardian power is as old as Azeroth itself. It’s the very concept of passed down, generational knowledge, which will ALWAYS beat individual power.
I think you’re taking things a little to serious, have you ever heard of joking around? ?? ??? blink ??? ??? blink …
Seriously its just a game, calm down, lol.
I’m not talking about the Guardian of Tirisfal, I am talking about Jaina being all powerful and nearly untouchable to the point that even Thalyssra fearing her.
It makes zero sense as to why she is as powerful as she is.
To be fair, they were gonna execute them…so more accurate to say mixed results 
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She’s WoW’s Thor/Dr. Strange basically, her staff is the staff of Antonidas who practically rivaled Elisande in certain magic studies (Wrote a book on Chrono magic and it’s uses), then consider that the same staff was imbued with a Storm Demi-god’s powers from Lei-shen who had the power to swamp an entire continent in violent storms…and it’s not hard to see how she would be a rival to Thalryssa in raw power, not to mention that she had brief tutelage from the aspect of Magic himself.
Oh look… Jocks vs Nerds.
Up next: “Kids These Days”, “Ow My Aching Back”
The internet isn’t big enough for everything I have to say about my aching back.
Hehe.
Don’t I know it. Blew out my L5-S1 in 2012.
Funny thing was, a few days prior, I had been hit by a foul ball at a baseball game. Right over my right kidney… I was at a concession stand looking away from the field and whap! I was in shock for about 1 second it hit so hard. Like, I didn’t remember the actual impact, wondered why I felt a bee-sting the size of a golf ball on my back and was thinking, “Hey, there’s a ball rolling at my feet.”
Anyway, two days later, blasts of nerve pain (new to me at 35) down my right leg and I thought I might have a blood clot from being hit by that ball. LOL!!
Well. Good news: nope, not gonna die. Bad news: about your discs…
They weren’t using many Wolf Riders in the First War, and those that they did use were raiders rather than proper cavalry. I’m referring to the First Battle of Stormwind Keep, where the Horde assaulted Stormwind directly but Lothar took a force out from the Harbor to Westfall and attacked their flank on horseback. When they hit the Horde from behind, Stormwind’s gates opened and the humans had them trapped in a classic pincer move. The Horde was routed and the survivors talked about horses like they were unbeatable monsters.
Which to be fair is a pretty natural reaction to have if you have a fully armored warhorse carrying a fully armored knight bearing down on you. People in the 21st century obviously rarely comprehend just how terrifying that is if you’re on foot and in its way.
The Orcs were not deploying Shaman at the time, and the nature of the Horde at the time precluded them from doing so.
The Horde’s inability to retain the kind of political and strategic cohesion to win wars is a considerable weakness actually, and no amount of muscled up Tauren heavy infantry will change that.
Just put a sack of cheese on a mouse trap.
Humans > Orcs.
It was just an example. I think demonic terror inducing fel magic would do just exactly the same thing don’t you? A scared horse is just as dangerous to it’s master as to it’s enemy.
I’ve stepped in a mouse trap, barely tickled. Orcs are a bit tougher.
Now a BEAR trap might do some damage.
Gul’Dan and his Warlocks were heavily restricted in use in the First War as there weren’t that many of them, and their work tended to be in the form of rituals to create and empower troops rather than directly attack. They weren’t generally present on the front lines because they were fragile, and the Horde didn’t trust them.
That being said, it also bears noting that the only reason that the Horde was there at all was because Medivh opened the Dark Portal and, due to being possessed by Sargeras, did not intervene to aid Stormwind. He was still eventually found out and slain by Anduin Lothar, and when he did so it actually KO’d Gul’Dan for a time as well because Gul’Dan was probing Medivh’s mind looking for arcane secrets.
The Humans also had their own spellcasters that served as a major obstacle for the machinations of the Warlocks, particularly the Human Clerics and Conjurors.
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Human got magic!
It also bears noting that, while it’s true that the betrayal of the Stormreaver, Twilight’s Hammer, and Dragonmaw Clans signaled the death knell of Doomhammer’s campaign against the Alliance in the Second War, the Horde’s strategic position had already been undermined.
The Horde’s primary objective was Capital City, and their main base of operations in Lordaeron at the time was Hillsbrad. Doomhammer had split the Horde into two main forces. One went through the Hinterlands and attacked Eastern Lordaeron, while the other would go through Alterac in an attempt to seize Capital City, with the hope that the force he sent to Eastern Lordaeron would be able to meet up with the main body of his forces at Tirisfal.
The forces he sent east were intercepted by a force led by Turalyon near Quel’thalas, which was a target of interest to Gul’dan and Cho’gall (who were leading the Stormreaver and Twilight’s Hammer clans respectively, which comprised the bulk of the forces that Doomhammer sent east) because they were interested in seizing any magical knowledge that they could.
The attack on Quel’thalas got the High Elves to finally commit to the Alliance, and the Horde was defeated and forced to retreat by the combined High Elven and Human force, but it was still theoretically strong enough to provide the reinforcement that Doomhammer needed.
Doomhammer’s main force meanwhile invaded Tirisfal Glades directly. He was able to do this because the Kingdom of Alterac, led by Aiden Perenolde, had betrayed the Alliance and allowed the Horde free passage through the Alterac Mountains in exchange for a promise of mercy.
This was critical, because Doomhammer knew that any attempt to take the Alterac Mountains conventionally would have taken months at best and victory was not guaranteed. Alterac’s betrayal allowed him to skip that, and surprise the Alliance with a sudden attack on Tirisfal.
He immediately laid siege to Capital City because he knew he had to take the city before the Alliance forces in Eastern Lordaeron and Stromgarde learned of what had happened and returned to break the siege.
Unfortunately for Doomhammer, the Alliance caught wind of Alterac’s betrayal, and a force led by Danath Trollbane had attacked Alterac and closed off the Horde’s southern line of retreat. This combined with news of Turalyon’s force returning from Eastern Lordaeron to break the siege meant that the Horde’s campaign against Capital City was already precarious, because even if they took the city they were fully encircled.
This was when Doomhammer learned of Gul’dan’s betrayal, and that was the final straw that convinced him the battle was lost and he needed to retreat, which he did all the way back to Khaz Modan.
The Horde didn’t lose the Second War solely because of Gul’dan’s betrayal, Gul’dan’s betrayal is just what guaranteed it, since by the time Gul’dan betrayed the Horde, the Horde was already in a losing position.
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Furthermore, I liked it when the Orc said Zug Zug and told me to stop poking him
Pretty sure it has been stated the physical abilities of orcs and humans are comparable, and the tough orc look comes because they are a warrior culture and fight since they are a young age, not so much because they are inherently built stronger. Tauren on the other hand…
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It doesn’t take much. One warlock fears a few horses and the fear is contagious. They’re herd animals. Again, calvary doesn’t work when magic is possible.