I just would like for an alternative path for high elves to take besides joining the void elves. Like becoming lightforged for instance, instead of them all merging with VE. Why? Because simply if not all BE is becoming VE, then by the same logic not all HE should become VE. I just want to see how some make different choices as individuals.
Sigh⌠even when Iâm agreeing with you, you go and attack meâŚ
This already exists in TRP for role players. Itâs super common on all of the RP realms. Everything an RPâer needs to successfully and completely RP a High Elf with the Void Elf race AND the Blood Elf race ingame is being implemented.
These really weakly veiled attempts to get Void Elves removed and replaced with High Elves (and despite all of OPâs protests to the contrary, thatâs what she wantsâŚshe said so upthread outright) are hurtful and they do nothing to help Helf advocates with their fellow players. When players come in and make civil responses or question such overblown suggestions, we get people acting like weâre making it up. OP said:
I responded with:
I thought I was being engaged with the conversation and polite and non-aggressive. I got POUNCED on by OP and then gaslit by some other guy who pretended he couldnât fathom why Iâd say Void Elves should remain Void Elves because âoh, all sheâs suggesting is an OPTION to TOGGLE.â
This is the level weâre dealing with.
I was totally onboard with the Helf group. I listened and I heard what they wanted and I sympathize. I even see how Void Elves must have felt spiteful and like a slap directly against that community. I was really happy for the Helf fans when I saw they were giving us the blue eye and natural skin tones. I thought, âYay, theyâre gonna be able to look like they always wanted, and theyâll be able to fully immerse in RP as High Elves.â
But like five minutes later, we get thread after thread about renaming Void Elves, removing Void Elves, getting different racials for Void Elves, removing racials for Void Elves, ânobody likes Void Elvesâ (which is hysterical given theyâre the most popular AR on the Alliance), etc. And then, when someone says anything to even slightly check a balance against that sort of thing, we get gaslit to high heaven with âWhy donât you want other players to have what they want?â
Itâs disingenuous, and itâs not going to get you ANY support. Iâm pretty done with trying to advocate for the Helf crowd at this point because itâs just mean more often than not.
I like the Void Elves. I was engaged with their story and the unlock was fun for me. I like playing an elf that has this lore and backstory. I like turning blue when my racial is proccing. Iâm sorry that Helf fans didnât get what they wanted, but these elves have been in the game, now, for two years. Helf fans were given way more than an inch in compromise on both factions, and they want to take way more than a mile in return.
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I donât think sheâs meaning to attack you Nic. It sounds like she might just be really frustrated with the current situation.
Though I shouldnât speak for other people. Thatâs not fair either⌠Itâs been a morning. Sorry Shadow⌠I itâs a bad habit and I donât know why Iâm continuing to post⌠Iâm going to go make lunch.
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This would require High Elves to be their own allied race, and with the new options forthcoming, that possibility has decreased in likelihood a great deal.
Iâm not attacking you personally, just pointing out that some of the people in the helfer community will never be happy until Void Elves have been eliminated.
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Then I would request them as an allied race, not all of them would look at the void the same. And those that does should show signs they have.
I will say this isnât a good look. I mean, maybe itâs out of context, but it does open up to why there seems to be a rift in communication.
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She took a reply I made to you, in a certain context, and used it as ammunition for her frustration at others. Maybe itâs not an attack on me directly, but after just agreeing with her, to have my words used like that, out of the context of our discussion, certainly felt like an attack on me.
I dunno why people are quoting a post of mine from 9 days ago.
Fair enough. Itâs not my place to get involved. Just trying to get people to see both sides.
And those people will fail to achieve that. I know that, and you should know that too. Itâs just never going to happen. At most, Void Elves will have a wide variety of options. Thatâs it.
This was a mic drop post. Well done. 
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She did say, however, she wasnât attacking you mayhap you should let the matter drop.
Depends. Has your opinion changed in those 9 days? Because that posts like that have been what people have been having trouble with. I mean, unless thereâs more context there, you were specifically calling for void elves to become high elves.
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Well, considering i posted that with rage, because people in this thread were acting like, âyou got to be a void elf, not what you want to beâ.
Because you admitted to your true agenda and others agreed with it.
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No, because you, and a few others make it so as if it is your goal to say to people canât play how they want as what they want, but instead, they got to play what I say they got to play.
I donât think asking for TRPâs functionality (with Blizzard imposed limitations) to be added to the game as a feature is an unreasonable request. Itâs purely cosmetic, and allows players the option to identify their character the way they wish to be identified to both other players and NPCâs, which is a function I donât believe TRP is capable of (though I could be wrong about that).
I mean thatâs fine too. Iâve said things out of anger before on here. I once said that I hope that helfers get nothing else because I was so frustrated with a couple of bad apples that I was ready to paint the whole fandom as bad. Thatâs super unfair as well, and Iâve since correct.
Thatâs why I was asking if things had changed. It sounds like they have. I just wanted to ask and get the full story. We canât really read intent or emotion on this kind of media. We lose a lot of context here.
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