Only 2 tanks and 2 healers listed in LFG at primetime on Grobb

No, I understand your points and reworded it in a non flattering way to prove that what you’re saying is dumb and baseless.

You don’t like it because I’m doing it well.

2 Likes

Your point of view is pretty ignorant and it doesn’t seem like you want to discuss.
All those big talks just for that.

“Irrelevant” “dumb” “propaganda” “archaic”
Trying to stick so many stickers

“insert baseless claims, sprinkle some ad hominem, add in just a touch over the suggested sarcasm quotient, and finally remove and trace of sense or self awareness”

Did I guess right?

we ever meet randomly in the street I’ll buy you a beverage of your choice.

You guys are funny, maybe you should think about what you just wrote and look in a mirror.

sounds of sweet sweet silence plays

I’d play you the sound of silence but you’d need to be able to listen to hear it :slight_smile:

To be ignorant means that I don’t understand.

I understand your points quite well, hence the rewording of them to show that I understand. You just don’t like it because I’m saying the same thing you are but I’m not buttering it up.

You’re backed into a corner because unlike other forum posters I do not care. I ain’t even coming back even if RDF gets implemented and my wow accounts hold no meaning to me after being the recipient of Blizzards inability to manage a game at a basic level. Couple that with the “wow community”, a community of old men who lack the basic ability to move and do any other action, a community of individuals filled to the brim with nostalgia for their nerdy glory days trying to recreate non recreatable experiences. A community that reported to me to the point of suspension for saying “ratJAM” in the nexus on launch because “this dumb zoomer lingo is ruining my game”. This is a community of non justified self importance. So to put it bluntly, every time you say something about the community, I remember how many times my hand was slapped away by the same community because the wow classic playerbase is just a vile and disgusting playerbase.

And then people like you are there to remind me why I feel this way. Your unabashed righteousness to prevent others from accessing content, in the expansion that was supposed to be alt friendly shows everything wrong with classic. The worst parts of the game is because of players like you so no I’m not going to pretend to be nice on the forums to make you feel good about your bad takes.

You got no rebuttal to anything I said because you know you can’t convince me to make your subjective opinions be equal to objective fact.

1 Like

I’m not backed in any corner.
Your main arguments like the other ones is that what I’m saying is irrelevant because of your own values.

When you’ll want to respect those values that other people can have we can have a talk. Else you’re screaming at a wall and being mad that what you say echo.

Rdf is an accessibility based tool for instances. This is fact.

Your social experiences is subjective and not worth any note in discussion to RDF, as the tool does not preventing you from “interacting” with others.

1 Like

And that has impacts. There are pros and cons.

All gaming experiences are subjectives. When game devs make a game they make the game toward the experience they want you to have and that’s why you shouldn’t be fighting with me.

We’re all right to want a gaming experience more tuned to what we prefer.

The pros are numerous and outweigh the cons, as the cons will exist with or without rdf, or is limited to “I can’t play with them after”, which is a fair con and why I said anyone should be able to play with anyone, anywhere, for anything.

But this is about being social. You don’t need to see someone again to be social in the now.

But we’re discussing a tool. The tool has an objective nature.

This is the point of what I’m saying. Youre trying to equate your social experience with the objective facts of RDF.

I think it does to a certain point, but I still think the cons exist and shouldn’t be just pushed aside.

And that tool will have an impact on players experiences.

That’s an insult. Then when someone insults you back you whine about it. I don’t think it’s selfish. I think it’s a valuable addition to the game that will vastly increase the number of dungeons done and the number of players leveling alts. Less people will raid log.

I don’t think it reduces social interactions because I don’t think whispering strangers to ask them to tank or heal is a social interaction. Just as I don’t think it’s a social interaction when a beggar asks me for money on the street.

You seem to think that because you said you’re ok if rdf is added you can make all the anti-rdf arguments and not have people disagree with you.

I don’t think joining a group with 4 other people can ever be solo play. You are literally playing with 4 other people.

1 Like

Almost like it was designed for the benefit of the player base to access content easily and to side step the area of gatekeeping being espoused by the anti side while still allowing those players the same level of group building control they had without it.

nope sorry, apparently it’s selfish. Someone’s subjective feelings told them this.

1 Like

Being selfish is not a bad thing first. It’s human and it’s totally something reasonable. I’m not saying this to diminish people point of view about it.

Everything else is recycled but I won’t post a gif, this time :slight_smile:

Uh huh, which every con except one already exists. RDF adds a single con, being that you can’t play with them after you leave group. That is the only con that RDF brings. All other cons you can say already exist with LFG.

Yes, that’s why we want it. It’s a net positive tool over LFG. It removes nothing that LFG already does, and only adds.

Your social expectations are met the entire way with RDF with the exception being that you can’t play after you leave group, which is why, again, I stated that you should be able to play with anyone, anywhere, for anything.

But in regards to “interactions”, which is the main argument against RDF, RDF does not stop interactions. You’re free to talk to people and be ignored to your hearts content with RDF, just like LFG.

2 Likes

when it had full xrealm I made so many cross server connections due to RDF. Got my foot in the door for raids even lmao, few of them I still talk to and one is even playing wrath classic with me again. RDF has great social potential if people want to sieze on that

Think you are right though, that is the only real, tangible downside.

RDF got me a mythic raid team in BFA. It started with me basically solo carrying an instance and the tank wanted to know that if he paid for an xfer, if I’d be down to tryout for their mythic roster. I said yes, out dps’d his entire roster in heroic and then took a freelo spot in his mythic roster.

That there is more than anything I’ve experienced with LFG in regards to instances.

1 Like

The tool will have a positive impact on players experiences. You don’t want it because you’re selfish and want to force everyone to play your way. No insult intended

I think you try to minimalize it but at least you accept that there are some cons.

Yes because the supermarket didn’t kill small shops and the highway didn’t replace small roads. We all get that there are positives about them, but yes it will mean having less interactions with the same people. Yes social interactions won’t be destroyed if you add RDF, but they will be diminished and the main way to play the game won’t be to find people on your servers which I still think is something pretty valuable.

Any way, I’ll be here if you need to talk. But it’s still the devs you need to convince.

I think a middle ground would be to have RDF be server only. And if we want to make it so more people use it they could make players scale down so max levels have a reason to queue with low level.