Once wrath is over

Just curious what was your first expac you played/joined WoW in?

Yeah and honestlyā€¦ the real reason we havenā€™t seen wow 2 is because they just care about money and itā€™s expensive to make a new game.

The reality is this behavior started with tbcā€¦ why finish your original game when you can sell a box for 40-60 bucks. What happened to half the zones in vanilla we never saw or the raids that never came to be? Put on the back burner so they could sell a box.

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I started playing Jan ā€˜05

Closed beta back in 2004

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Sadly itā€™s not just Blizzard thatā€™s like this but thatā€™s a whole different topic. Youā€™re right about itā€¦ profits > everything will be the demise of many former great companies that once had integrity in their product.

Ahh you are an OG OG. Respect.

Literal same for me!

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I remember I had to get my dad to take me to the closest micro center because it was the only store that had the game in stock lmfao

He also hooked it up with a new gpu because the game crashed every time I walked into iron forge on my first char

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Probably why people find my views on the game so weird lol, my favorite expansions are basically MoP>Wrath>Legion>Cata>WoD>tbc>vanilla>sl>bfa

Gamestop for me, Iā€™ll never forget the first WoW box I ever gotā€¦ I was still using dial up and had to wait for my dad to finish work every day to use the computer. Crazy to think 17 years later Iā€™m still playing this game. LOL

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Itā€™s honestly why I asked - wasnā€™t expecting to hear that! But interesting forsure, I started similar time in 05 but after WoTLK the game started to feel like a solo player game to me and I stopped for a long timeā€¦ I also moved away to college so Iā€™m sure there are other factors Iā€™m not considering when I think about those expacs.

I just never got the whole ā€œsolo player gameā€ thing as I constantly was raiding with guilds.

Iā€™d say my order goes ā€¦

Vanilla, MoP wrath tbc all tied for different reasons, cata, WoDā€¦ canā€™t stomach legion and itā€™s children BFA and SL.

But it has a lot to do with your personal experiences and life experiences during a given expansions lifespan.

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I think this is the right takeaway. When I was playing TBC and WoTLK for the first time I was in high school / just finishing high schoolā€¦ playing 8 hours a day after Iā€™d get home and those are my most fond memories of the game. After that when I was in college I lost my interest for a long time, however clearly it returned.

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If Blizzard learned how to release TLP servers with timelines it would be more successful.

I would play a Trilogy TLP server after Wrath.

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Yeah, I wish we could just travel back in time!

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I would play it, if it was overhauled to feel like a truely fresh experience and were promised new content after Naxx. Of course, this is in all likelihood a pipe dream, but would be what would keep non retail tourist players paying for WoW.

Changes needed:

The leveling pace in vanilla x1 is perfectly fine the way it is, but a lot of zones need significantly more quests to reduce those gaps in the 40-60 range where your primary option is to mob grind only. Add more quests, donā€™t touch exp rates or exp required.

class overhaul. They should take inspiration from TBC class design, adding in key talents and abilities that make more specs viable, but also make further additions that give every class actual rotations. They should not copy the class homogenization from wrath and beyond. Classes had depth and felt unique which was one of the major strengths of vanilla and tbc, the problem is 1 button rotations and too many useless specs. Not every spec has to be raid optimal, but every spec should have a niche to fill in the game (farming, pvp, etc.) and not be complete garbage full stop. TBC did a great job at cutting down useless specs without homogenization, so take inspiration there, while also making gameplay changes that give classes actual rotations.

Make existing raids harder. Donā€™t do it in a lazy way like SoM but primarily increasing boss health and damage. Add completely brand new mechanics that completely change how people do the fights.

Overhaul itemization. This is also half the reason hybrid dps is garbage.

Replace the henious old honor system with rated battlegrounds. Have world objectives like EPL towers have more tangible rewards and benefits for controlling, and add new ones in the world.

Maybe have a vanilla version of death knights?
Maybe blood elves and Draenei?

No cross realm bgs
No layering
Add the original alterac valley, not the abomination 1.12 version

Add new dungeons and raids like the unfinished karazhan crypts and scarlet crusade raid.

Never, ever, even think about adding flying or LFD. Both are cancer to WoW.

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Rerolling toons is the closest thing to that for me now. Genuinely enjoying leveling this warrior so much taking in all the zones.

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Basically the same, a lot of my rating is based off class design and how good the raids were and how much fun I had raiding them.

Though I play wrath through mop on pservers all the time, they hold up on their own imo.

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Yeah just doing raids and arenas the past couple months has me feeling super down in the dumpsā€¦ I think wrath prepatch will reignite my excitement and urge to play.

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Problem with all these changes, is the dev hours needed.

isnā€™t that what SOM did and everyone hated it? Like new Hard modes in AQ have a bunch of different ability. Bosses in BWL are changed

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