Blizzard only cares about what can be livestreamed, vlogged, or pushed by “influencers”. Their success metrics are more around eSports views than about player satisfaction. There’s really only one way that could possibly end shrug.
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Well were seeing it now as the game now has a more Wildstar feel to it now.
I consider myself casual and i play a lot of alts ( not i SL just waiting for the next patch when flying becomes available so the lvling is better ) currently i m doing 5 characters and i m at 208 on main and rest are 204+ and it is more than enough to do world stuff . As someone said up in comments most of the casuals (atleast the people i know ) are quite happy with it . This has become extremely irritating people complaining all the time in the name of casuals .
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It’s really getting bad. All weekend of trying to get my +9s up to +10s and declined every time. With no way to progress why login except for raid night?
Make your own group.
Oh wow thanks! Didn’t know I could do that!
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Casual is description of time, not skill or content level. You can be a casual player who does mythic content. There is not casual tier content. please correct yourself.
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It was a rough idea, blizz could easily design stops to discourage having to do that. For example, if you’ve cleared heroic CN, the only items that drop for you that would have a change to Titan forge would be from heroic CN or higher m+. Aka only content relevant to you will be able to titanforge.
you seriously basement-posting right now? get a life bro
Looooooooolllllll… no.
No risk, no reward.
This generation and participation awards… I swear 🤦🏼
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The argument doesn’t really hold water. If you’re running mythic keys, you’re not a casual player. Casual player’s endgame is running LFR raids or PVP. Casual players do not need to gear up for raids they won’t be running.
Its all about logging in; renewing that sub. Keep it grindy; keep people logging in. But who doesn’t get tired of that after a while?
If you’re gunna go this far, may as well say that if you’ve got the time to log on you’re not a casual player lmao.
The idea that casual players are helpless babies that need everything spoonfed to them is ridiculous.
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Gear is a motivator for raiders too. I would do it to kill bosses, but I’m also the kind of person who joins heroic prog groups that I need nothing from and just help out of boredom.
Unfortunately, that’s not every Mythic raider though, we’d lose a part of the pool of raiders without the gear motivation, and that would be felt hard on NA Alliance where our raiding community is already smaller.
Not that this last point matters to me either, but the “esports” mode of raiding is race to world first, and an easy source of mythic level gear would remove a huge challenge from that which is doing the fights with a relatively low ilvl.
Wait… you mean… you have to do harder content to get better gear?
This is blasphemy!
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You took Hambamfu’s comment out of context: Hambamfu was directing that comment to me as if I refuse to do high end content. I don’t give a damn about high end content. It has nothing to do with me refusing to do it. I don’t like it and chose not to do it. I’m a World Quester. End of story. I never said I wanted something for nothing. I’m perfectly happy with world quests. That’s the way I started playing WOW back 5 or so years ago and the same way I like it today. I don’t complain about gearing. Would I like higher gear, sure, to make it more fun to stomp on mobs? Hell yes. But that’s not the case. I spend a lot of time on WQ’s and it would be nice to get a decent gear drop once in awhile to feel like my work was worth something. Enough said.
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Casual players simply don’t bring in the kind of money that ESporters, Twitchers and YouTubers do. At the end of the day, it’s not personal, it’s strictly business. Blizzard is as guilty of corporate greed as is every corporation.
Yeah, they definitely should have made an intermediate ilvl of upgrades available to people who only did +5s or +10s, so they could progress toward eventually doing +15s. /s
If you want the max level of rewards in the first week or 2 of the new system, you might have to put in some work. What did you expect?
I don’t think Blizzard is trying to do that. I think they would be OK with players doing any combination of the major gear paths: raid, M+, PVP. People who don’t want to do any of those are going to have a lower gear ceiling, but even then you can make substantial progress compared to a fresh 60.
The problem is that a substantial part of the playerbase will turn any discrepancy in effort/reward between the Big 3 into “Everyone has to PVP to gear now, RIP raids/M+, thanks Blizzard”, the same as “Everyone has to spam islands for azerite” or “Everyone has to spam Maw of Souls for artifact power”.
Blizzard can’t make multiple paths to a goal without someone trying to math out the “best” one and impose it on everyone. (See also: talents, soulbinds, covenants.)
Unless you’re literally racing to complete the most difficult content in the game as fast as possible (WF or MDI), efficiency isn’t THAT important. Don’t optimize the fun out of your own gameplay.
I’m borderline casual… I’d like to have it… If I don’t get max 226 I could give a crap because it will be replaced in 9.1.
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Ill take “stupidest thing i have ever read on the WoW forums” for 1000 host of the week!
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