Ion just needs to walk into Mythic Antorus on his Shaman and fight the first pack of trash inside. He’ll understand extremely quickly why people are upset about the lack of any meaningful scaling.
Why should raid trash from 2 expansions ago take the same damage as a non-elite mob in bastion with 10x less health? Pride and accomplishment is not achieved by breaking the same legacy content precedent we’ve had since what, MOP?
^ Very much this. Copy/paste spam responses. I just flag them now.
I am by far not a hardcore raider or mythic + player, I enjoy Crafting, Herbing/Fishing etc, Mount collecting and Transmog. I would really like to see the issues with not being able to solo old content fixed as this is a big part of what i enjoy playing this game for. Thanks
Hes been lead since the end of MoP. Which was like the peak of expansions. Then you had the full price mini expansion of WoD, the “just ok” Legion, the BFA, and now Systemlands. Its gone downhill for sure with him…
Exactly… he clearly said it was due to combat rating or whatever so it’s a problem with the system. How hard is it to just add a buff/aura that makes past expansion content in legacy mode so easier to down.
So making new content almost impossible to do and older content impossible to do with a freshly level capped, weak and nerfed to death toon is good for the games future? Yeah, we shall indeed see how this plays out.
He wasn’t lead game director in MOP.
He was promoted in the WoD to Legion transition when Chilton stepped down.
You keep bringing up new players as the reasoning for this change, can you link to me where Ion says this change is for new players?
I’m eating right now, so may as well see how far they can go.
Ion is also responsible for ruining Warlocks, which makes me dislike him even more so. lol
Like we had it good in MoP, then WoD and we started getting gutted with every patch it seems…
But, if they were to do the old content at level 50 in 8.3 crafted gear they would be able to one-shot everything.
So, your personal thoughts aside, it is not some 4D chess move to make players appreciate older content more.
If anything, it’s another issue we’re encountering with scaling, and how they probably did some backend things to make sure that 8.3 mythic-geared players weren’t one-shotting Shadowlands mobs at level 58.
There is an extremely noticeable drop in power that happens as you level, which is fine and expected in current content after 16 years of expansions. It occurs, IMO, the most notably at level 57-60.
Something is happening witch scaling at the last few levels that is affecting older raids, and that sounds like it’s something they’re aware of, but not willing to fix…probably because it’s tied to a larger scaling mechanic, and they have hotfixes and raid balancing going on right now that take precedence.
I’m ok with this for now, as SL is still new, and old transmog runs are probably a lot, lot lower right now due to other, new content keeping people busy.
But, after we get some of the initial hickups out of the way and raid-tuning fixed, they need to add the ICC buff to all older raids to counteract the scaling issues.
If they don’t want to do them for Legion until .1 or .2, fine. Sigh. But fine. But everything else needs it.
Archimonde in Mythic HFC was soloable near the end of season 1 of BFA by many classes and still died much faster than Worldbreaker does in Mythic Antorus right now. This is comparing the last boss of a 2-expansions-ago (at the time) raid to the first boss of the same kind of raid.
The scaling is simply nowhere close to the experience we’ve had for past squishes and it is a step in the wrong direction.
A rare and his guards in Arathi Highlands hit me harder than he ever did when I was 120 and 50. I had to use defensive cooldowns. It was stupid.
I think he’s bored and makes stuff up in every post.
This is subjective.
Yup, Ion said it’s due to how things work in WoW via combat rating or something so it’s clearly a system issue that they are once again, not bothering with. This team annoys me a lot.
Nice try, Ion.
Yeah, you’d think they would have like a beta or something to test stuff out…
And I have no problem with that. None at all. I’m used to this rodeo.
But for older content, nah.
Bring back anniversary-style events or the timewalking versions if you want it to still be a challenge. Go for it!
But transmog runs should take priority over lore issues. If anything, it doesn’t make sense that you COULD one-shot older things because of your power, but then lose that ability…with no lore explanation.
This is purely and 100% a mechanical issue and nothing to do with lore (in regards to soloing of old raids. No issues with how it works for current content, I actually enjoy feeling weaker and getting stronger again every few years).
Let’s compare your desire to see the content challenging one time versus the desire of millions to farm it easily for transmog week, after week, after week, after week, after week, after … Well, I’m sure we should cater to people to have a tad more challenge their first time around rather than the whole rest of the world just there to farm stuff as fast as possible. People who already loved through all those raids over and over again.
I heard making stuff one or two shot completely makes trivial your ability to read the quest texts and watch the cut scenes.
They know of it, they just write it off as (point from mmo-c)
“…Things should get better as you get more gear and Soulbinds…”
For old instanced content. There is something wrong with that.