I never played that. I did try some of those survival MMOs, like the one with the dinosaurs and Mortal Online. They advertised these incredibly good looking bases that looked more like villages, or even towns. Yeah that was BS. Waste of time.
Wildstar that’s it. I was trying to remember the name. And every MMO failed if you really think about it. Anyway, thanks I wanna give it another shot since i have some time now.
I don’t know how you measure the popularity or success of something like player housing beyond charging people money for aesthetics and then just monitoring income levels from it.
Reality is, everyone would engage with player housing. There’d be no feasible reason not to that I can imagine.
But, what’s the scope? I start a quest. I now have a house. I can put up some furniture. And then I can… sit in the house… and look at furniture…
Sometimes I can change the furniture.
That’s the scope of player housing in terms of what the gameplay is delivering.
I don’t see that being worth several months of work and I say that on the basis of opportunity cost.
I’m comfortable in assuming there are much, much more players who do not RP than there are those who do.
I really only see player housing as a large win for RP’ers and then just a “meh” for everyone else.
I don’t think a “meh” is worth the cost of all the developer time that would be taken away from proper gameplay.
When I say “content”, I generally use it interchangeably with “gameplay”.
A new quest line is content. New battleground, arena, dungeon, raid, etc etc. all content. Specs / classes are the lens by which we view the world, and impact how we play it, so that’s content too.
Player housing is sitting in your room looking at the furniture. There is no gameplay element to that beyond roleplaying. To me, that’s not a win. It’s an opportunity cost
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I would rather have real gameplay like dungeons and open world content than say housing and also transmog is the endgame anyways.
Wildstar? It closed, my dear, 6 years ago.
Sadly its shutdown now. I never played it as a main game, but it was fun to jump into here and there. The combat and movement was great.
conan exiles was the goat before they took joel away and put him on the new dune survival. the building is still top notch, but the rest is is now a desecrated corpse of broken promises, gameplay systems that no longer matter but aren’t removed and a general dismissal of any of the original development efforts.
Its okay that you don’t get it. Other people do.
I don’t get nascar, its just cars going in a circle. Other people love it and it has a huge fan base. Cool for them, I’m not bothered by that.
Nobody is trying to convince you that housing would be cool for you personally.
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I don’t go to a nascar race and complain that they are only going in circle.
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Yeah and the likely outcome would be sticking a mission table there or some kind of daily content which is tip-toeing the line to putting player power there for engagement.
Yeah, I suspected it since steam said something like that. Shame.
I have that one too, but I have 8 hours on it, according to steam. They look real good on paper, so to speak, but when you really play them, or at least when I do, it feels different.
Anyway, to get back on subject. I think Housing should be added. If we are gonna start saying that they shouldn’t add this and that and instead they should add gameplay, dungeons and so on, then why bother even adding those. If we don’t let them try new things, might as well go play Classic and be stuck in that limbo.
Consider something, this game already had flying, they didn’t have to add dynamic flying. Now I don’t know what caused them to add dynamic flying, but it’s one of the best things that were added to this game in my opinion and I personally suspect that it was done because Guild Wars 2 had it. If they manage to do this again with housing then you people should be excited.
Well we have to hear raiders and M+ people complain about being forced to do content they hate. The whole reason a lot of people are against housing is the fear of having to do content they hate. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to hard content in a game that someone is playing to relax. Just like there is nothing wrong with liking harder in a game someone plays to relax. I don’t get why people feel it is okay to dump on others for not liking hard content. Both sides whine about content they don’t want to do.
I understand that. But, as you alluded to earlier, it’s important for people to vocalize their opinion. While I think there’s precisely a 0% chance that anything anyone says in this thread makes a minute difference in any capacity, if yall are here saying player housing is a good idea, I’m going to be here explaining why it’s not. At the end of the day, both our respective useless inputs will cancel each other out.
“No thanks” to player housing. For the developer time it costs, the reward is not sufficient from a gameplay perspective.
I’m not expecting to change anyone’s minds. It’s the internet. I’m just providing my opinion 
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They already had it instanced for housing. Also GW2 has no end game.
Good idea, that would be silly. Thanks for letting us know.
Oh, was that supposed to be relevant like you wouldn’t play a mmo without housing and then complain that it doesn’t have housing?
Not a great comparison. We already like and play wow without housing, just offering suggestions for how to make it better.
It wouldn’t, though, which is why I’m discussing opportunity cost.
For the time and money it would take to implement player housing, blizzard could theoretically deliver much, much more.
When player housing is (unfortunately) inevitably implemented, the reality is it’s going to be a medium to extract more money from the player base for zero gameplay purpose.
It will genuinely make the game worse.
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Wildstar had alot of issues with it. Housing was one thing they absolutely knocked out of the park. It is still my favorite housing system of any game that I have played mmo or not.
The only other that seems to be close is ESO, but I have not played that game in years. So I can’t say, but others give it high praise.
By the way, thanks for brining this up, cause I would probably have found out Guild Wars 2 is getting a new expansion 6 years later. I bought it since it’s coming in about 2 months anyway.
I have a hearthstone to my player housing already.
Sure, it sucked. It had very little customization. It has the gate wide open to whoever and gets random invasions, but its mine. Still need that last invasion mount come to think
SUPER WEIRD that a feature people want keeps getting brought up.