Yeah but best case they look at 18% and 8% and just go “screw it” and make it 20% (which was the July 30 nerf to KC if you remember) and 10%.
Second best case, we keep complaining and they roll out another buff next reset after seeing that Tarlo and Azor were correct and their internal numbers are wrong.
i just simmed the “new” new patch notes and it is still 8% ST nerf for my toon, back to dooming i guess… what a hunter day
Where are you getting your numbers from?
Hunter discord is saying a 2/3% buff
This is from Azortharian (confirmed by Tarlo):
Are the BM changes a Buff or Nerf on ST/AoE?
Here’s a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBafzu90NEE
Don’t forget to swap 1 point in basilisk collar to Wild Instincts and turn PI on in your sims (without PI we’re cooked)
thanks! that actually closes the gap a lil and it’s only a 5% loss now… i’m pretty sure my MM gear still sims better at this point
But wait… I thought specs weren’t supposed to be tuned around PI?
PI should be nerfed, not Hunter mid-tier.
Not with PI it doesnt.
I just don’t get it they literally said it was I intended to be neutral and initial wording had that then they fixed their wording and now it’s a 5% st nerf ugh
After this nerf tomorrow, BM is losing 5% ST - that’s IF you get PI. If you don’t get PI that’s an 11% nerf.
PI gives about 6%
Actually curious on how these numbers are run and compared. Is that 5% loss comparing with PI numbers from before the patch or non PI numbers? Same token, is the 11% loss the swing from PI before to non PI after, or compare both non PI numbers?
Well i get PI lol. Any guild that doesnt give the BM hunter PI is trolling.
To be very honest with you, I trust Azortharian and Tarlo, the leaders of the Hunter theorycrafting/Discord. For more info, there’s a large post in Discord or you can check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBafzu90NEE
True, but what happens when you have 2x hunters and 1x priest? Or what happens if your priest gets sick or whatever, ya know? That’s a lot of dmg. I just think PI should be deleted or nerfed, personally.
What?!
a) a 5% nerf is not “relatively neutral” and you know it
b) you guys had like 15 lines of text to add today. How do you not realize you had the 8% on there twice? I can’t imagine not proof reading an important email to a customer at my job. Crazy.
Bm equates to overall loss of 3-5% single target.
Bm feign death also loses 1 second off survival tactics the best defensive.
Also 5% nerf from 30% to 25% on survival of the fittest.
Then smoke screen now only aplies 12.5% damage reduction instead of the 25% for 3 seconds when you use exhileration.
Bm will do less damage and be easier to kill. Think that should make the player base very happy in pvp. For those playing bm theyll feel the opposite.
PVP =/= PVE. Hunters in pvp discord are saying even though in pve its a single target nerf its a buff or net neutral in pvp. Swapping is better in pvp as well. Also a rank 1 EU Hunter in discord said the defensive nerfs in pvp are a slap on the wrist mostly and I agree with him.
I dont disagree
Yea you’re probably right. They should tune PvP separately.