Oct 9 Hunter changes, UPDATE - Aoe buffed more, still losing some ST

Hunter

  • Beast Mastery
    • Basilisk Collar damage bonus per damage over time effect reduced to 2%/4% (was 5%/10%).
    • Kill Command damage increased by 18%.
    • All damage dealt increased by 8%.
    • All damage dealt by pets and summons increased by 8%.
      • Developers’ notes: We’ve corrected an issue with the Beast Mastery changes which previously excluded the baseline aura buff for both the Hunter and their pets. We’ve also adjusted the values for the baseline buff up, to better reach our target goals. Our intended tuning change for Beast Mastery is intended to be relatively neutral for single target, while increasing AoE performance, which was behind where it should be.
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I try really hard to not be a doomer or to act like the sky is falling. However these bm chamges are pretty horrendous. We need more up front aoe for m+ this doesnt really solve that but it does make the one thing we are decent at(st) and also makes it trash. We were very propped up by PI and now were near the bottom of all specs for both ST and AoE.

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very nice. M+ was dead but now im useless in raids now. wahoooo!

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Lowest in AoE and ST well if you go by golf rules we are hard winning

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Love Blizz putting part of the 11.0.5 changes in now to make BM completely useless in every scenario this current patch :melting_face:

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Take our 0 percent cleave and increase by 9 percent, we are still at the bottom by far.

take our niche ST only, which was top 3 and nerf by 9 percent, we are now at the bottom of ST.

I would like to hear the idea/reasoning behind this, hopefully a dev will come enlighten us with their WONDERFUL thinking.

Either regear MM or just unsub because you won’t see the raid or N+ as BM.

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On bright side, dark ranger St as MM like haste/crit so most BM wont have trouble swapping. but i feel for my brothers who got gutted, i only pray the 11.05 is very soon as it is a nice rework to both mm and bm.

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Really good change for all the people who were asking for basilisk nerf now, before the rest of the talent rework comes online

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BM has been relegated to ONLY solo delve status. No raids, no m+. Just solo delving. What a sad state this spec is.

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Awful changes. HUGE single target nerf to BM which is the only thing it’s decent at right now. Pre-Mythic raid week BM was below Dev Evoker in single target sims yet dev evoker received buffs? Now this huge ST nerf to BM on top of that? Blizz you really have to stop going off of warcraft logs data if you don’t understand what you are looking at. Not every BM hunter in every raid has access to this problem you have created with PI. You made over corrections to multiple specs in Amirdrassil because of PI too and completely gutted some of those specs you made changes to. Stop.

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Why don’t make this thing only one node then? two nodes is giving less than one node would, wtf

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Whoever is in charge of BM needs to be fired. This is outrageous.

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I feel sad.

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Can only recommend to address BM ST - with a meaningful buff. While the Basilisk Collar nerf was to be expected, it created a meaningful gap for our single target that simply buffs to Pet Damage and Kill Command can’t address.

What would be a great middle point would be doubling the value of the Kill Command Buff but reducing some of the Beast Cleave / Kill Cleave conversion down from 90% to 85%. This would not only help Pack Leader a bit as a Hero Talent but wouldn’t hurt the ST Damage in such a significant way while our AoE still remains buffed. (Napkin Math)

also maybe 2% pet damage might be needed on top.

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BM = Dead. Need some raid tuning now to make up for the lack of ST on bosses that is now going to occur. :partying_face:

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Great, so now I won’t get to do CE prog, being the 2nd hunter in my raid group. They didn’t have to be so heavy with the ST nerf. The AOE buff doesn’t even make BM the better AOE/M+ spec. They could buff KC/pet dmg to bring the BM ST back up to where it was and still be fine on the AOE side. There’s no reason for this.

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Or they could just push the entire set of changes now instead of waiting til November or just don’t push changes at all until then.

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Fire this hunter class dev immediately

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can someone please explain to me why blizzard is doing this???

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I don’t think even blizz can at this point maybe someone beat a dev on the meters

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