Credit where it’s due. Thanks for listening to the feedback.
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Thanks for listening.
Next time before instituing assinine changes like this consult the community first?
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Very pleased to hear this. I woke up to ~114 AV games running and still a 15 minute queue (no shorter than any other AV weekend) with 300ms. The change did nothing to help anything.
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Back to god awful BG queues then, off to play my alliance toons once more.
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Firstly, thank you Blizzard for paying attention to the community and reverting this change.
While you rationale makes sense, the execution and method used was less than ideal.
I personally believe come TBC release, you will have many people come back to the game and increase the density of players.
If after release, you notice that the BG’s in OCE are stagnant and are lacking players, then I would suggest looking at reimplementing if it makes sense.
If you do end up going down the path of implementing, then some sort of a fair system that would mean not all BG’s\arena’s are played in the NA region would be favourable.
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It will be interesting to see what effect this has on Oceanic pvp. It will be trading latency for population.
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BGs are so much more FUN (remember that?) with low latency, that’s a factor that is often forgotten.
Please don’t revert the change entirely for BGs. It’s awesome having faster queues, especially at off peak times, with a wider variety of opponents at the small cost of slightly higher latency (Yes, slightly higher, most people were exaggerating about 200ms+ and half the games were OCE hosted anyway).
Now we get to to go back to playing BG weekends only, or long queues where if it pops at all it’s into the same one or two premades all day. And these premades are generally built to stomp pugs. Alliance will queue 15 into AB, because they don’t want to queue with 10 and risk facing another WSG premade.
The issues I see with instanced PVP can largely be improved by:
- Keeping BGs merged cross region
- Locking or prioritising OCE arena to OCE
- Forcing premades to face other premades in BGs
At high rated arena people might prefer to lock it to OCE and wait longer for a match. It won’t matter so much for lower rated games or pugs in BGs, more games for them, and more enjoyable games if they aren’t facing premades.
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I don’t deny that it will improve performance. I’m just curious to see how it affects the ability to get a match. People are waiting a long time now for battlegrounds; when you take the rest of the entirety of the NA region out of the pool, surely that will impact on pvp.
Before this change WSG, AB and AV were all active just fine, queues are instant for Alliance, Horde has to wait 15 mins+ because of the ratio. I don’t think it’s going to be a problem, oceanic is more active than you seem to think.
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Is it possible to still keep any of the cross region functionality for BGs? It has been a god send to be able to queue for ANY bg with reasonable queue time. I have enjoyed it thoroughly.
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Well done Blizzard
Could be. I suspect it might be a bit more difficult for those people who choose to stay in Classic rather than moving to TBC, but I guess time will tell.
Thanks Blizz glad you swallowed your pride and did what was right by your customer base.
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Oh for sure, but that’s another issue entirely… I don’t think any of the classic realms are particularly active.
This is false, there have been more matches due to prepatch but the queues were still 35-40 minutes horde side. And outside prepatch it was a lot worse.
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Who cares? There are going to be people who don’t play against each other as it is. If it’s an issue then alter the region to suit - make it only encompass OCE players so we don’t need to compromise the latency. Why is it so hard to fix the problem properly.
This paragraph worries me.
Thanks for reverting.
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Thank you, resubbed.
No one would. Rewards are % based for titles/mounts and if there is no people in the pool, then the top spots will be insanely hard to get. Also the less players, the less rating inflation, so it’ll be harder to get shoulders/weps etc.
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No it wasn’t fine. There was literally 0 bgs outside of WSG unless it was that BGs weekend. The prepatch where everyone is pvping to prep for TBC/gear alts is not indicative on how the BGs were for nearly all of classic.
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