Well I can say toward that statement then that for me:
Most classes are builder, spender, cds.
Some still have dots to keep up, ok.
Add some rng to that and call it a day.
I can play all classes because they play/feel mostly the same.
I think the only thing I can’t play are healers but that’s just me not liking to play healers.
And that atleast my class didn’t feel like this generic in wod.
This. The question at the end of the day should be “is the content & story better?”. Right now BfA has just as many raids & more content you can do than WoD did when it was live. I’m also going to assume there’s at least 2 more raids that need to come out(for some reason I think there’ll be 3 more).
This is a question that needs to be asked next expansion, can’t come up with conclusions right now because we don’t know how it’ll end or what’s going to happen next. People are just currently using their feelings instead of sitting back and riding the wave before they come up with their final verdict.
Hmm.
WoD left us content deprived. How many times can you run Ashran? Or run around a world with minimal dailies? That said, classes were still in a good place, PvP wasn’t yet twisted into a new system, and the raids that existed were worth running.
BfA leaves us loaded with pretty lame content, thus we feel deprived. Dailies long killed off at this point, but replaced with progression-free WQ’s. Raids that are fun, but the loot reward is absent this time around–even visually.
So I see WoD as a flat, empty space, and BfA more like a black hole. Which is worse? Investing time into nothing, or having nothing to invest time into?
Removal of all this settled dust will be the final nail in the coffin for me.
I definitely think this is the worst expansion without a doubt.
I mean, taking away class raid sets already is a huge blow…but to replace them with vanilla looking green gear?
No improvements on ANY of the content everyone’s been complaining about since launch.
No PvP warfronts, no PvP talents on islands, basic stuff isn’t even being fixed.
Players already gave up this xpac. I don’t think 8.2 will resolve the main issues. Which it’s the gameplay and the rewards, i feel more rewarding doing just emissary and WP and i get tired of it. That’s what pains me, players want retail die so classic prevails, like Runescape, the hope for retail has vanished. (That’s what I think).
Both are bad.
But at least in WoD we got to have our own base so that was pretty cool.
No. It’s closer than it should be, but no.
WOD really didn’t have content except for raids. BFA has a lot more content it’s offering, but it’s a hodgepodge of hit or miss. As far as I’m concerned a lack of content can never trump bad content. The point I’d be making for any blue reading is that BFA is better by default ONLY because it actually does have content. It wins on a technicality which isn’t a great way to claim victory.
However, people clearly aren’t satisfied with the expansion so it’s kind of a moot point on if it’s as bad or not. But lots of people seem to think 8.2 is very promising and with the return of classic they should at least be able to stumble to the next expac.
Absolutely not lol.
BfA isnt the best, but there’s no way its worse than WoD.
WoD just had way too much cut from it to even consider it a full expansion. Imo it feels awkward playing through it because all I think about is the cut story content, the cut shatt raid, the cut Ogre island zone, etc. Your endgame choices were pretty much raid or ashran. Those were the only activities.
And pet battles, kek.
BfA isnt top tier, but its not worse than WoD imo.
Congrats. You just vaguely described every single MMO dps class in the world, WoW or not.
No, no way.
I knew these forums had extreme recency bias but this is ridiculous. Do you people not remember how much of a complete disaster WoD was? Blizzard LITERALLY GAVE UP halfway through it was that much of a trainwreck. Just look at the absurd amount of cut content there was in WoD:
https:// www.mmo-champion. com/threads/1874264-A-collection-of-all-known-cut-delayed-content-in-Warlords-of-Draenor
The only things WoD did better were class rotations/design (and even as a shadow priest I disagree), and maybe the dungeons. Everything else was awful.
lmao people are praising GARRISONS. Holy cow these forums are delusional, do people seriously not remember how atrocious garrisons were?
Theres already a PVP warfront thats been in the game forever.
AV.
They gave up immediately IMO. They championed twitter integration as a major patch until they got laughed out of the room for it.
Then they released BRF too soon after HM and doubled down with a speed release of Tanaan/HFC and that was it. 14 months later they had trumped SoO release length and we all were ready to forget it ever happened.
WoD felt like they never tried. It felt like they put together bare bones content in an effort to test how much they could get away with.
WoD = 1 year expansion cycles
WoD = rushed release to capitalize on Warcraft movie hype
It was short on content that released too fast because they went into the expansion looking to launch Legion a full year sooner as well as being woefully unprepared for the launch surge that came with WoD meaning that they had to do lots of work on the underlying game structure while also dealing with bugs in WoD and working on Legion.
Apples to pig’s feet.
WoD had good content for a 1 year expansion but ran out of content when Blizzard couldn’t launch Legion within a year. BFA has content for a 2 year expansion but most of it is really bad cut/paste content that gets old really fast.
Um the dust has not settled yet as we are still mid BfA. Not sure how anyone can make any sort of intelligent debate on how good BfA is or is not without it being complete. Then wait for the dust to settle a few months into the next xpac and ask again.
Most complaints about BfA are more opinion then fact. Stop looking through previous xpac goggles.
BFA is bad but WoD still takes the cake. I admit classes were far better in WoD (outside of the “lawl we dont want you playing demonology so we gonna gut it”). However it was a baron waste land of crap all to do. Worst implementation of reps in all of WoW and outside raids there was nothing to do. Tanaan wasnt too bad. Apex crystals were kinda fun to group up and farm with friends but after my corrupted drake i quit doing that. The car claws were straight cancer tho…
Also people think the story was good? What? They legit had to pull time travel out of their … to bring back Guldan. Which come to find out the only purpose WoD served was to setup Legion…
I just can’t understand how people can reasonably say that WoD is better than BfA.
I notice that the only real reasons people have stated is that “well I had fun”, which is funny because people discount that SAME logic when people say BfA is good.
Literally the only better things I can see in WoD were class balance and design (again, as a shadow priest, I even disagree), the random treasures, and MAYBE dungeons. That’s it.
I mean c’mon there are people PRAISING GARRISONS FFS.
I had around a dozen characters at max level during WoD. True most of those were just gold mission table farmers, but at least I put forth the effort to get them there and would play them for other things sometimes. Many specs were still fun to play.
In BfA I have one character at max level. I’ve no desire to bother with more because they all feel like crap to play. And what’s the point? There are no unique stories for each class like Legion, not a single profession is worth the effort. It’s just the same mindless grind but with none of the reward of having a different playstyle to enjoy. They’re all the same, and they all suck.
WoD was miles ahead of BfA, and considering the crapshow that WoD turned out to be, that’s saying a lot.
I have played FF14 and can tell you that it can get more complicated pretty quick.
The Ninja class has a “Invoker from dota skill”
combine 3 buttons in different order, or just 2 of them. Press the combo button it will be different. About 10 different skills can be used that way. Oh also that’s off gcd. So have fun squeezing that between your normal rotation.
The Mechanist (one of the simpler class) has a overheating mechanic with special amno gauge (that modify your abilities to buff them), time the overheating mechanic and special amno gauge with cds for best effect.
That’s just what I play there mostly
I think wotlk/cata/mop had a bit more to chew on from classes. If we’re just speaking from wow perspective.
I don’t think so, WoD is when I came back to the game. (disagreed with Pandaria exp) WoD does have some things that BFA could have used but I like how they introduced BFA at first more so than WoD. Not really liking it now only because they are making Sylvanas look bad. However, its keeping me around to see what they do with her. Could care less about the Naga though.