To be fair I’m on the fence about LFD/RDF. Yes I used the heck out of it in WotLK and yes I thoroughly enjoyed it. That said, my goals for WotLKC are such that not having the feature won’t particularly prevent me from accomplishing said goals.
If the argument against is because it destroyed the community, I would argue that the WoW community of 2022 has largely gravitated to Discord. Surely to goodness they don’t mean the LFG community. You know, the channel rife with anal jokes, (insert name of movie title with Murloc replacing one word), Let’s Go Brandon this, Orange Man bad that, someone announcing that they are going to the bathroom to drop an Amber Heard, someone with an obvious need for attention announcing that they are ignoring someone as though we are supposed to care… That community? That’s what people are pining for? Would love to know what this fabled community of theirs is or if they have their rose-tinted glasses on as tightly as I often believe I do.
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Yea, no. That’s not why people wanted Classic. That’s what you think people wanted. If that was what people wanted then we wouldn’t have been on later patches that had balance changes that were not there from start of the game. QoL features like RDF is no different than a patch for balance changes. People wanted to play Classic to revisit content, lore, and the atmosphere of the original. RDF for WotLK should have RDF as RDF was a major feature people enjoyed with WotLK.
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So Trade chat just moved to Discord?
Honestly, yeah. LOL
Lots of conversations about docking in my raiding guild’s Discord. Heck, the raid team’s “name” is Team Docking Station. Bosses die and we are all dying laughing the entire time. It’s great.
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No one use any addons and downgrade your internet to dialup modems! QoL features ruined the game!
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What’s wrong with that? Why do we need a cap how much content we can play? Badge loot is PRE-bis, and doesn’t overtake current tier raid content of each phase.
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Yes it is. To say otherwise is revisionist. Where do you think the devs got the idea to remove LFD in the first place?
It’s from the original crowd of people who wanted Classic. They’re the dedicated target audience and NOT the nostalgia trip retail tourists.
The smart thing to do, as is true of any business, is to target the majority. Perhaps Blizzard is but if and until they make public this data of theirs that has led them to their decision regarding LFD/RDF then we’ll simply have to take their word for it. You’ll have to forgive me but in my experience any time someone says to me that I’ll have to take their word for it, it turns out they were full of it.
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yes because the classic pureists are the ones who were gathering every WBuff and logging on multiple characters every week, yea no. the community who plays lives in Bulletin Board.
for someone whos entire life is spent on the forums you speak about stuff you are clearly uninformed
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Not really, especially when that “majority” is going to leave after Classic Wrath anyway, like they did the first time around. Targeting your dedicated fans is a better long-term investment. Do you even own a business yourself?
I’m not sure what you’re attempting to communicate here. Can you perhaps revise and edit your statement, and use proper grammar please?
But who is the majority? Is it the dedicated fans or those who you state will simply leave after WotLKC? Apparently only Blizzard knows but they don’t appear to be too keen on making that data public so I guess we’re left to speculate as to which it is. And again, that some of you can trust them so fervently simply boggles the mind.
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I’ve been on Classic since day 1 and I want LFD for Wrath.
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Majority? Players can’t agree on anything, and never will. And 2022 Blizz is incompetent.
Which is why authenticity should be the guiding principle. Just make the game as it was. As the 2008-2010 WoW devs designed.
It’s really that simple, and they still screw it up.
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Great, thanks for sharing.
same, kind of. all of classic, took a break during a lot of TBC. but i didnt want them to implement LFD in TBC because it wasnt in TBC. it was in WotLK, i want it in WotLK
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Wrath of the Vanilla King.
I am sick and tired of people saying that LFD is the reason why the WoW community is so toxic.
No it’s not.
PEOPLE are the cause of toxicity.
It’s just a part of the times we live in.
There have always been bad eggs in gaming,but now there are just more of them and they are more noticeable.
LFD isn’t destroying the community because people have the option of not using it and instead running dungeons with their friends and guildmates.
And not having LFD is a huge mistake if it was originally in WOTLK,even if it was released later on in the expansion.
LFD is the most convenient tool for people who actually enjoy leveling up new toons.
Here’s an example of not boosting screwing someone’s leveling experience.
I was leveling up a BE mage in Ghostlands right?
Doing the Knucklerot and Luzran,Bring Me Kel’gash’s Head and The Traitor’s Destruction quests.
I tried recruiting for all of them and wound up pretty much soloing Knucklerot and Luzran save for a last minute jump in by a passing Hunter.
Then for Kel’gash I died to him at the very least 15 times before someone finally responded to my recruitment efforts and we took him down.
But The Traitor’s Destruction? A passing level 70 on her way to Zul’aman asked if I wanted help,and after failing to kill him 3 times I said sure why not,beats hanging around when the only people in Ghostlands now are Paladin bots and multi boxer groups.
Then the real problem and why I’m disappointed the most in not getting LFD in WOTLK Classic is when I was recruiting for Ragefire Chasm.
It took 3 hours to get 2 extra peeps to do the dungeon.
And after loads of prodding from the LFG lurkers we just 3manned it.
Sure no one died but it still took us over an hour to do the dungeon.
Which brings me to my final and most crucial point.
What of people who have to work long shifts and come home to play WoW to unwind?
Do we not have the right to enjoy the same content as you but on a more relaxed schedule?
Sure we ain’t doing any big raids on work days.
But leveling and doing dungeons which take literally hours to recruit for?
That is why LFD is so important.
If you don’t like it so be it,you can use LFG and do stuff with your guilds and that’s cool.
But don’t deprive us of the convenience simply because you mistakenly think you will suffer for it.
And before you say “Go play Retail if you like LFD so much”
Retail is trash.
It’s so god damned easy outside of current content.
But even with all the death and time carefully spent pulling mobs and occasionally doing lowbie dungeons Classic is the most fun I’ve had on WoW in YEARS and what made me come back.
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They can’t because there is none.
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People who say that are trolling. Think about that statement: “You want an authentic experience of Wrath? Go play Retail then!!!”
It’s completely absurd.
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A lot of them don’t even think they are trolling.
And that’s the sad part.
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