It is insane to not include a feature that was literally in WOTLK into the game. I don’t want to hear this nonsense about how LFD ruins community. It isn’t 2012, that type of community doesn’t exist anymore.
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What’s insane to me is that people asked for Classic specifically to get away from QOL features that were detrimental to the MMORPG experience, like LFD, and now, Classic players are asking for those same features that pushed them away the first time around.
“I don’t want to hear any arguments that dismantle mine!” What exactly is the point of this post then, Drakk?
Maybe for you it doesn’t. If you have chosen to voluntarily exclude yourself from community, that’s on you. However, the game, which is more traditional MMORPG, isn’t really designed around solo players. Retail is much better if you’re a solo player.
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qol feature that was literally in WOTLK?
.because LFD doesn’t ruin community. and saying that it does is dumb.
retail is trash.
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It’s irrelevant if it was in Wrath or not. You keep repeating this ad nauseum but it’s fallen on deaf ears. We embraced some changes in TBC. You’re an entire expansion late for that argument.
It does ruin community and saying that it doesn’t denies years of data and revises history.
Retail has LFD.
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I want to play the game as it was, not how some clueless devs think the game should be.
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It is relevent… what? Was dual spec put into TBC even though people wanted it? No. They are adding it in Wrath Classic BECAUSE IT CAME OUT THEN.
“Years of data” yeah mhm sure. What data says it “ruins the community” did you pull it out of a hat?
WRATH HAD LFD.
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Never going to happen unless you have a time machine.
No it isn’t. The Classic franchise has already embraced #SomeChanges. Just because something was in Wrath doesn’t mean it will be in Classic Wrath. Because, we have embraced, 3rd time’s the charm, Some Changes.
Take a loot at Retail. How do you think Retail got to the way it did?
And Classic Wrath does not have LFD.
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LMAO. using retail as a sign that LFD destroyed the community.
It is relevant. I know there has been #somechanges. I play. But why on Earth would you remove a good tool that was in Wrath initially. The point of the forum post is to get it in Wrath Classic because without it, the game is worse off.
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Bloomsday just trolls every lfd thread. Put it on ignore.
And yes, it is insanity and makes no sense.
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Yup – sorry that’s it’s practical and tangible and not based entirely on hearsay, hypotheticals, and conspiracy. We’ve seen with our own eyes what LFD does to the game.
No it isn’t. Some changes means that just because something was in Wrath does not mean it will/should be in Wrath Classic. So, if you’re arguing in favor for LFD for the sake of some arbitrary push for authenticity, we already threw 100% authenticity out the window.
That point is a lost cause.
There are a number of reasons as to why they could have removed LFD.
Right, if your point is to advocate for LFD, you’re going about it in the wrong way. Your arguing for no changes when the devs and player base alike have already embraced some changes. Try something else.
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ah yes. i see now. thanks.
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Let’s just repeat WoW through all of the expansions and make the exact same decisions and implement the exact same QoL additions to the game that made a lot of us hate retail.
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Wanting to get away from retail cancer didn’t mean wanting to get away from the good QoL features. Playing through classic and TBC without dungeon finder was acceptable because it wasn’t in those versions of the game. Playing WOTLK without it is not acceptable.
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You’re delusional if you think LFD had anything to do with the downfall of WoW.
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It’s not Retail, it’s Wrath. And lfd was added into Wrath 13 years ago.
You know what wasn’t? Selling 70 boosts, but Blizz has no problem doing that with Wrath Classic. So you can flush that ‘we don’t want to repeat the mistakes of retail’ nonsense down the toilet. That’s not what this is about.
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LFD ruins the community.
Sorry you can’t handle the truth.
Because LFD was added to the game.
Just because your sort are terrible toxic “GO GO GO!” types doesn’t mean you have to ruin Wrath (and whatever might come after it) a second time around.
How about we try it differently this time. How about we do not add one of the main things that this very forum has said led to Retail.
And you say this because things like LFD got added to the game.
/facepalm
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What determines if a QoL feature was good or not? Whether you, Coolstorybro, personally liked it or not?
Except we played through most of Wrath’s content without LFD, so it is perfectly acceptable. Maybe for you personally it isn’t, which in that case, don’t play?
That’s what the data says. Subs stagnated and only went down after LFD. Do you think anyone that listens to data is “delusional”?
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And you’re delusional if you haven’t been paying attention to the game for the last 10 years and seen the community decline into the toxic mess it has become.
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To be fair, I disagree with this decision as well. If there was a way to convince Blizzard to reverse this, I would be all in.
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I don’t think he is.
Convenience and solo/casual friendly features led to an auto-sufficiency era which promote individualism behavior.
LFD wasn’t the only reason ofc, i could say that being able to PuG most of the raids in Wrath hurted the community too for an obvious reason : no guild constraints.
Guilds were struggling keeping players because you were able to do most of the content “alone”.
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