#NOCHANGES 🐒 , Arguments flawed and debunked (SERIOUS)

Man look at this, a player with some common sense. Think I found a rare in the forums.

Not really lmfao. That whole statement is based on the premise that ActiBlizz can actually make GOOD classic content for Classic+, which they clearly can’t judging from what’s been done with retail. If they COULD, they would have done it a LONG time ago. Classic+ would NOT be as profitable vs the expansions due to the VERY SMALL number of players in favor of it. There aren’t enough of you to fill even ONE server let alone multiples. It’s a huge gamble for Blizzard that would require a ton of time/money/man hours/resources to make Classic+ and this is even assuming they could actually deliver on it without making another dumpster fire like Cata/WoD/BFA. Re-releasing the expansions however will cost them almost nothing to port them over and make massive $$$$

You Classic+ people are incredibly naive to think otherwise. Mark Kern’s statement about the “alternate reality of WoW and branching off in a different direction” was idle theory and speculation. He no longer works for Blizzard, therefore what he says should be taken with a grain of salt. It is NOT Blizzard approval or any indication they will go that route AT ALL

A classic+ expansion would draw players from old and new because it hasn’t been seen or done before. Could be a gold mine or a total disaster but fear isn’t something that would stop me from trying and based on Blizzard’s stance on Classic+. Don’t think they’re afraid to try either since they considered it.

Blizzard considered it? Really?? How do you know this? I already shot down the Mark Kern statement. Where’s this blue post that talks about them considering Classic+?

Ion stated it in a q&a

You mean this one?

Where does it mention Classic+???..NOWHERE

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QFT

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Great another person thats clueless about why people wanted classic.

It is in this article

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.denofgeek.com/us/games/blizzard/281116/world-of-warcraft-classic-preview-impressions

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Trying to find the q and a where Ion mentioned the same thing.

“Anything is on the table. This is a love letter to our fans,” Dawson said. “If the fans have a desire for something, it would absolutely be considered. We’re certainly not planning to do that today, but if people want more, we can talk about that. We’ll cross that bridge when we get there.”

That statement directly conflicts with Blizzard’s prior statements about Pandora’s Box and Classic being a museum piece. Unless it’s kept separate, there will be Hell to pay once the Classic community hears about this

It’s not outside the realm of possibility for Blizz to do something new with WoW. Classic proves there is a demand for that style of MMO.

Small indie companies with not even a quarter of the WoW fan base attempt new MMO’s on the regular. Their downfall is usually the lack of player base, and being relatively unknown. So money and marketing.

Blizz doesn’t have to worry about either of those things. It still IS the most well known MMO, hell game of our time… currently.

While I don’t have good faith they’d make anything I’d play, to say they wouldn’t as a matter of fact is also incorrect.

They’ve got the players base, the lore, the manpower, the money. Retail is still going strong(?) but those players aren’t very happy with it either.

If there was a time for them to make some changes, the time is now (or following the status of Classic being a success or stagnating). They don’t want to lose their cash cow. However, I’d see this being something retail related and not something they’d do with Classic(+). Just my thoughts.

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I agree with everything you said except for

I don’t think this would work for retail since retail players love their QoL features and Classic removes all of that which is why we talk about Classic+.

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THANK YOU btw for finally giving me the sources to the claims that the OP and others were making. I asked the OP and one other for a citation multiple times and they failed to respond.

I may not like what I read, but at least I know people aren’t talking out of their @ss anymore regarding Blizzard’s stance on it

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Very true, I’m just thinking Blizz would be reluctant to expand Classic because they have been in the past up to this point. I feel like they need Retail to keep succeeding and restarting it is an embarrassment (to them). That being said they’ll do whatever they think is making the most money.

yeah much prefer a wow 2.0
maybe set in the future or just another universe itself. different combination of classes and specs. that way they can play with different ideas and the same ideas. but still keep it true to what makes classic wow good. atleast this way they could impliment some of the QoL changes that wont ruin the game without changing classic

Guy that actually did the work says all the same things the majority of the community is saying. Blizzard themselves even comment that it’s on the table.

Seems like YOU are the one asking for your own personal “Custom Expansion”, my boy.

Shocktastic at it again.

I got news for you folks. The link to that interview with Patrick Dawson is now no longer relevant. In a more recent interview with Ion Hazzikostas, he specifically states that “There will be NO NEW CONTENT for Classic.” Meaning NO CLASSIC+ garbage!!! Expansions confirmed :sunglasses:

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You can try to make me look like an idiot all you want all you’re doing is showing YOUR level of maturity… Or rather a lack thereof. I’m done wasting my time speaking with you. You’re beneath me