I see that youâre one of those people that somehow manages to conflate âWorkâ and âSigning a petitionâ.
This is ridiculous. Very few people did the vast majority of work in bringing about classic⌠youâre literally the kid that contributed a couple paperclips to a class project worth half your grade and considered your part done.
By the way⌠That petition youâre talking about was delivered to Blizzard by Mark Kern personally and HE fought with and on behalf of Nostalrius staff for Classic Servers.
This is him talking about what we all tend to refer to as âClassic+â, which he endorsesâŚ
âI think there needs to be a parallel branch of development. Sort of like an alternate reality where World of Warcraft didnât go the way of retail WoW and [instead] stuck to those guiding principles [of vanilla WoW]â
Once again, I get the feeling you simply have no idea whats going on⌠Actually, itâs not a feeling anymore, itâs plainly confirmed.
Thereâs a big difference between making an assumption and making an informed and educated guess.
Other people have proposed similar ideas. One that I can recall in particular involved the caverns of time. Utilizing that for the Classic+ content while leaving regular classic alone.
The gearing system idea you have actually could work. If they utilized the same tab system that they used in Diablo 2 for swapping gear sets, your idea could work just fine. Given the fact that a lot of the devs from Diablo 3 are now working on retail WoW, itâs not outside their ability to make it happen
Okay so based on that statement by Mark Kern, you automatically assume itâs going to take place? Idle conversation and thoughts about things in the game do not necessarily mean that theyâre going to be implemented. Until or unless Blizzard officially releases a statement regarding this new content, then itâs nothing more than theory and conjecture
Oh great, another one of these âI want more featured content in classicâ threads
Incorrect, there is history behind this and you should research this before assuming otherwise. The Nost shutdown caused an up roar which ignited the private server community to bring legacy servers to Blizzard as a officially supported game aka Vanilla. This is why it is a museum piece as it is not ment to have added features to it. Only to be modernized to run on todays infrastructure and run as if someone wanted to play Vanilla again. Just like if someone were to play Mario 64 or Final Fantasy VII on console.
I donât care for Classic+ as I feel Blizzard wouldnât do it justice. The true Classic+ is TBC. Thatâs it. If you want to go beyond Classic then ask for burning crusade servers and imo stop at wrath exp. People need to calm the f down and just play the game. Youâre not the first person to write thread like this and Iâm sure you wont be the last.
Oh but according to him thatâs just PR talk. Supposedly Blizzard was only saying that to appease the vanilla players to get them to come back. Now that theyâre here, Loghain assumes that Blizzard is going to change classic later on down the line to make more money. All these people that want Classic+ are all doom and gloom about the game saying that itâs going to die if it doesnât get new content. Vanilla players are perfectly happy to play without new content otherwise there wouldnât have been any private servers to begin with. Yes there will be an attrition period in which players quit the game because of no new content, but those are going to be the retail players who have been mentally conditioned to have a need for that new content due to the way that the game has changed and evolved over the years. After those people leave along with the tourists, the vanilla private server people and everyone else that enjoys Classic will remain and enjoy the game just as much then as they did when it was released with or without new content.
The âneed to have new content or the game will dieâ is a logical fallacy that has been proven wrong already by the mere existence of the vanilla private server players, and is nothing more than an excuse to push their ill-conceived agenda to have Classic+ released instead of the later expansions cause âOMG I donât want flying or raised level capâ
The people behind Nost were the initial ones that brought Classic here today. If it were not for them and the Nost community none of this would of happened mainly because Blizzard stance of only going forward with development not backwards. Blizzard was very against making any legacy servers for a very long time until the cease and desist backlash.
The OP needs to understand that this is not some new version of wow that needs to evolve. Thats not what this is as this is Blizzard supporting a âlegacyâ server meaning carried over from an earlier time. The content has been done for this game already which was the expansion the burning crusade. Regardless of what some of these people want the point of preserving something that was " carried over from an earlier time" is to keep its authenticity. Doing other wise opens Pandoraâs box and can have unwanted results.
And Ion Hazzikostas himself said the very same thing. The whole Classic+ thing came about from so many people wanting to change Classic into something different, but after being shot down so many times by the #nochanges crowd, they dubbed it Classic+ and now claim it will be separate to avoid the backlash. Mark Kernâs statement regarding the alternate reality and branching off in a different direction is now being taken by them as gospel that Blizzard approves and is actually moving forward with this lmfao
Sorry to burst your bubble people, but itâs just idle conjecture and speculation⌠nothing more. If/when thereâs an official blue post about it, then you can get your hopes up
Exactly, Mark Kern does not work for Blizzard anymore as he was only making the comment as a âwhat ifâ kind of thing. It is not confirmation but some people want to believe anything they hear. They just need to enjoy the ride while it lasts. Imo the only way to keep playing is to have ever evolving servers of old expansions to current content. I imagine Blizzard may do this one day but breaking their wow team up to develop 2 versions of wow (retail and a wow+?) is ridiculous.
Exactly. Which means that Classic+ is doomed to fail simply because so many people that are in favor of it want so many different things. I have seen a lot of talk about people wanting retail features put in. Itâs going to be very difficult to get what you guys want out of it without getting a whole bunch of retail things as well. That being said, Blizzard will more than likely end up butchering it right out the gate
Iâm not sure why I have to point this out - Iâm assuming you and the others with similar replies did not actually read my post - but nowhere did I say that I am asking for this. What I said was, this is the only version I would support.
I do not favor BC (or WotLK, despite that being my favorite expansion) servers for two reasons: either they are tacked on to Classic just as they were to Vanilla, with all the attendant problems that result, or there are separate BC servers and the Classic playerbase is split once again.
To repeat: Iâm not asking for this, and I even explicitly said in my post that Blizz would never do it.
Yep blizzard totally developed Classic to not make money and just be very kind to what people wanted. Blizzard is a nice and caring person, not a corporation.
A corporation that dodges millions in taxes through loopholes nonetheless, but they totally donât want to make extra money from classic and will just leave it for 1k people to play on instead of updating it.
The current servers we are playing on should turn into a progression server with the same time frames as retail did back in the day. That is the true way to play WoW
My apologies. I mistook your post to be the same as every other Classic+ zealot around here. But the argument about splitting the player base is the very same one that got used in the Wall of No threads in the old forums by retail people who were against vanilla servers. The thing that nobody seems to realize, is that with the concept of separate servers for TBC/Wrath will not truly split them up since everyone can remain in contact with with each other through bnet. As long as players are given the ability to do a one-time character copy on each server they play on, they can freely swap back and forth between them as needed. Say for example that somebody playing Classic needs your help with something like a group quest or to fill a spot in a dungeon while you are busy playing TBC or Wrath. All they have to do is send you a whisper and you can swap over to your other character and help him and then go on about your business
Absolutely NOT. All thatâs going to do is make a bunch of people unsub just like before. Blizzard is not going to make that same mistake twice. Theyâre not going to throw all that money away so quickly
So long as there are separate Classic and Classic+ servers, I donât see the harm in Classic+. I probably wonât be terribly interested in it, but I donât see the harm.
Then you can go play retail. There you can get all the updates and content your heart desires. Classic is going to stay Classic from now until the end of WoW whether you like it or not
