No Viable TBCC US East or West PvP Servers

[Mootwo-earthfury]

I guess my rolling on SoM for World PVP with others was all my imagination.

Clearly, some people on this thread are making their preferences up and you, some level 11 with 10 posts, knows all.

[Rosamoon-fairbanks]

@Trashedmom-benediction

preserving the integrity of the game should come before trying to make people happy.

IDK, but making people happy should be no1. Happy customers = money, it’s in the business textbooks. Most philosophy, lawmaking, and religions also put happiness to the front.

[Mootwo-earthfury]

@Trashedmom-benediction

I would say without that risk–without those kind of high emotions–you really lose out on a lot of player interactions. You’re less likely to save or be saved by an Ally at the last second and develop some tie with that person, or to decide you have new rival b/c someone ganked you and stole a chest or something.

Yep.

I know we like the same stuff in this regard, and you didn’t really want to go to Bene but went with your guild. I can’t blame you, I have to decide if it’s worth me going to Faerlina with my guild whenever in the next months if it comes to it, but Earthfury is already 99% horde. It’s boring and so I just raid log. Moving to another 99% horde server will not let me enjoy the game more than I am so I will still just raid log if I do that, because of the stuff you said. IMO there is just no substance to these servers. They are boring. Like black coffee. It’s like the base game with no flavor to it. Nothing that exciting and nothing that fun, just those raids with the guild that are fun and that’s it.

Thankfully for TBCC Grobbulus is ok, as others said.

Regardless of my opinions, I hope you are finding ways to enjoy Bene though. The whole game was a lot more fun when we were all on Earthfury. RIP.

[Brolysuper-atiesh]

@Mootwo-earthfury

I guess my rolling on SoM for World PVP with others was all my imagination.

Clearly, some people on this thread are making their preferences up and you, some level 11 with 10 posts, knows all.

Good one, clearly you’re that ignorant to think a lvl 11 is someones only character. Maybe you should use a better amount of your time instead of plaguing the forums with your 5543 QQ posts.

/drop mic

[Msgnomer-grobbulus]

They did this in retail you know.

[Kasal-benediction]

You should get out of the tiny box of yours.

[Brolysuper-atiesh]

Well my box is bigger than yours so that should tell you something kid

[Trashedmom-benediction]

My reasoning behind game integrity over trying to cater to the whims of the playerbase is that most of the people playing are former players (at least that’s what I think)–they already like the game.

If you work to keep the game close to the original experience and design intentions most people will be happy in the end.

[Mootwo-earthfury]

@Brolysuper-atiesh

Good one, clearly you’re that ignorant to think a lvl 11 is someones only character. Maybe you should use a better amount of your time instead of plaguing the forums with your 5543 QQ posts.

I don’t, people just post on those characters to troll. Your opinion is still wrong and you seem overall like a nasty person.

[Emmortahl-nazjatar]

Players have demonstrated, with an extremely heavy hand, they’re not interested in playing on balanced servers. And with the absolute nightmare that certain Classic PvP servers were, I can’t say I blame them.

[Trashedmom-benediction]

Here is the population archive of the servers from classic http s://ironforge.pro/population/archive/?realm=PvP-PvP%20RP.

It was more or less like that for nearly 2 years. How do you explain that and the shift to imbalance all of a sudden in TBC.

[Emmortahl-nazjatar]

You are looking at more than just the percentage difference, right?

Faerlina grew by 11k, despite losing every Alliance player. Whitemane also grew 11k, despite half the Alliance abandoning ship. Benediction grew by a whopping 20k, despite all the Horde fleeing.

Most of those growth numbers are over double the original servers total population. I don’t believe Blizzard was forcing those folks onto the slightly heavier side of the seesaw en masse. The players chose to flood one side. Players have demonstrated they want mega servers, and they don’t want to actually have to PvP on those servers.

[Brolysuper-atiesh]

@Mootwo-earthfury

I don’t, people just post on those characters to troll. Your opinion is still wrong and you seem overall like a nasty person.

Cant be wrong when I’m already right, wpvp is for try hards and wannabe pvpers. No one cares about it but the 5 people like you still crying over it.

Oh and you call me a nasty person, yet you tried to act like douche by saying my lvl 11 priests knows nothing…here’s some advice kid look in the mirror and stop acting high and mighty cause you aren’t

[Trashedmom-benediction]

Ok, so you’re assuming that everyone rolling on mega servers was their ideal choice?

I don’t think that’s true. I mean the choice for a lot of us was xfer to bene or effectively not be able to play the game on a server where you can’t fill your raid roster or find groups for anything.

That’s not much of a choice.

It kind of ignores the climate of fear after the implementation of HvH also, where a lot of people thought it was a matter of time before their server was completely over taken by Horde.

[Mootwo-earthfury]

@Brolysuper-atiesh

Cant be wrong when I’m already right, wpvp is for try hards and wannabe pvpers. No one cares about it but the 5 people like you still crying over it.

Your post spoke for other people, it also looked like a troll post so I called you out. That’s it.

Now you’re saying “it’s only 5 of you” and being insulting, exactly like your first post. Do you really think the way you post looks good on you?

I’m totally fine with you being on a PVE server by the way. That was the right choice for you. You however do not seem like the respectful type in any way and there isn’t really even a reason for it.

I am always respectful to other people who are. People who are nasty are treated the same way.

[Kasal-benediction]

Wrong. Keep your pp target shut pve guy.

[Brolysuper-atiesh]

@Mootwo-earthfury

Your post spoke for other people, it also looked like a troll post so I called you out. That’s it.

Again you can look at server population it will literally back my statement up, so the only troll here is you for spewing bs.

@Mootwo-earthfury

Now you’re saying “it’s only 5 of you” and being insulting, exactly like your first post. Do you really think the way you post looks good on you?

Says you, that’s funny

@Mootwo-earthfury

I’m totally fine with you being on a PVE server by the way. That was the right choice for you. You however do not seem like the respectful type in any way and there isn’t really even a reason for it.

Actually I’m on Atiesh and Bene

@Mootwo-earthfury

I am always respectful to other people who are. People who are nasty are treated the same way.

I doubt it, you started this crap so you are far from respectful, if anything all you can do is cry false victimhood and there’s a saying for people like you.

[Emmortahl-nazjatar]

@Trashedmom-benediction

Ok, so you’re assuming that everyone rolling on mega servers was their ideal choice?

I don’t think that’s true. I mean the choice for a lot of us was xfer to bene or effectively not be able to play the game on a server where you can’t fill your raid roster or find groups for anything.

Ok, so there’s not enough people who wanted to stay off mega servers to fill a single raid roster. Yes, in that case, not everyone wanted to be on a mega server. My bad.

Although, considering the Classic Ironforge snapshot basically only counts raiders, using that site refutes your own point there…

@Trashedmom-benediction

It kind of ignores the climate of fear after the implementation of

You could have said any change here, because the forum users lose their god damn minds over every little pebble they stumble on. Alliance players lost literally nothing with the implementation of HvH, and you’d think they were losing access to raids for how they reacted.

[Brolysuper-atiesh]

@Emmortahl-nazjatar

You are looking at more than just the percentage difference, right?

Faerlina grew by 11k, despite losing every Alliance player. Whitemane also grew 11k, despite half the Alliance abandoning ship. Benediction grew by a whopping 20k, despite all the Horde fleeing.

Most of those growth numbers are over double the original servers total population. I don’t believe Blizzard was forcing those folks onto the slightly heavier side of the seesaw en masse. The players chose to flood one side. Players have demonstrated they want mega servers, and they don’t want to actually have to PvP on those servers.

It’s funny people fail to see this has been going on in WoW since server transfers where a thing. Hell my og server from vanilla WoW Stormscale went from a highpop server in classic to low pop by Wotlk.

[Emmortahl-nazjatar]

Yep. The players don’t want to build a community, they want a community to be there, waiting for them, without having to put in any of the work themselves. And then get mad at Blizzard for “destroying communities” when it doesn’t pop up overnight despite their complete lack of effort, or when it leaves them behind.