What makes you think that casuals are majority solo players when ion himself has said the majority of casuals do a lot of group content.
Even if solo players were the majority (they aren’t) the game is based on group content first not solo content.
Casual does not mean solo, Snozay. Casual is just people who aren’t chasing mythic+, mythic raiding, or other extreme content, its a very wide group. They’re the people who log in for an hour a day, do their dungeons/pvp queue/world quests, maybe some delves, and log off again.
I dunno where people got this concept that “Casual=solo”, infact.
edit: By definition, Casual is generally a term for “any MMORPG players who play occasionally (less than 20 hours a week) and like rulesets that make the game easier and more fun”
Casual is people that do mplus and raiding too my guy. You canplay high end, you can play group content and still be a casual.
I know people that push title in mplus and arena that are casual players because they play once a week.
Casual doesn’t mean bad at the game and yes it’s a wide array of players. Never said they weren’t.
I never said casual equals solo. In specifically arguing against that.
Solo players are the minority not casual players.
Casual is a metric of time not content or level played.
I never claimed that casuals are bad at the games, just that most casuals probably won’t be chasing high level M+, Raider leaderboards, or PVP leaderboards, as those usually take more time and dedication. I don’t see “Casual” as a good or bad term, its simply a descriptor.
you are the one who brought up solos, I simply said we’ll see what happens when casuals get their hands on it, since they’re the ones who are the majority of the playerbase, and most probably don’t read patch notes, play PTR, or discuss on the forums/discords.
This is where you’re pretending casual players aren’t good at the game.
Stop
See the important word there. Most, not all, i’m sure high M+ casuals exist, but I don’t think they make up a majority.
You’re ignoring the middle ground though.
You can be casual and still push 3k io or even 2500 io
Just because people play at a high level doesn’t mean they aren’t casual. Even seen some one night a week casual ce guilds that prog faster than 3 night guilds.
Right, which is also why I didn’t cite it as a Difficulty issue, but a time investment issue. I see the issue of getting into mythics less one of overall difficulty, but more in the realm of time management.
I never claimed high level players can’t be casuals, not once, nor did I say no high level casual players exist. I just said that, due to time issues, I don’t think most casuals are going into high end mythic, mythic raiding, or pvp leaderboards.
I also didn’t specify that they can’t exist, because they absolutely can, I just don’t think they’re the most common form of casual player.
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Im just saying you are putting your name out there as well as other peoples openly lol.
That’s not smart. There is a reason we use usernames. Not our full names.
Are you that dense you can’t comprehend how silly that is openly posting your name?
People have gotten people killed by making calls to the police that got SWAT to raid them over things as simple as “I thought it would be funny.”, never, ever, underestimate how stupid, petty, and cruel people on the internet can be.
Theirs a big reason why blizzard was forced to back off when they wanted to tie our real names to our account names and display those on the battlenet forums, and its not just because the trolls were mad they would be forced to have repercussions for their actions, it was a major safety concern.
And I disagree with this stance. Its all about class fantasy and we have yet to have a solo sniper. Pets aren’t required to make a hunter a hunter. Thats been a wow thing. Most dnd hunters are soloist rangers of some kind.
Yup. We’ll see how long this lasts whether they stick with the eagle, add stable option, remove it all together or just add pets back lol.
Too early to tell.
If you want that you should be pushing to have Warrior or Rogue given a ranged spec for it. Snipers are not hunters. Rangers are sure, but most cases your ranger at least has the option to have a pet even in DnD. GW2 also adds such things and most games I’ve played with a ranger or hunter type archetype tend to include an animal companion. Not just a WoW thing.
Also MM won’t be solo you’re saddled with a random eagle. I don’t see why that can’t just be my pet instead.
It didn’t work out the last time they tried. (Or the one before that if you all remember a short time in Pandaria they tried it too… I think it was MoP anyways… didn’t last long then as I recall and was a little different.)
Either way I’d be a whole lot less annoyed if that Eagle was my pet and I’d be a lot lot less annoyed if I could still use and summon my pet as I willed. (Not just in a combat setup mind.)
It was in WoD, not MoP, easy mistake to make though since no one played WoD lmao. The big removal they tried was in legion, though, I can go get the blue post from when they had to back off that time if you’d like?
I left in mid MoP until mid to late Legion depending on how you wanna count it so… >.>
Nah I was more or less around, though not playing much at the time I remember that main one. Either way I suspect if they don’t change up how they’re doing this it will end up going back again.
I don’t really think they need to change much though. Get rid of the random eagle lean into the stable of the hunter and let us continue to send the pet out if we want to… We’ll still easily parse better without, just like now, and still have the choice though for our playstyle.
Not like the meta won’t still be a meta.
Its so funny you think this has anything to do with meta.
Theres a reason why people that dont know class basics are ignored and you are a prime example of it.
That does not make any sense at all.
Wars are weapon masters, if they were going to be a ranged. They would use spears or javelins.
And rogues even make less sense when hunters exist.
Wait until you find out that hunters are a sub class of ranger in dnd lol.
Tbh it just seems like you are applying your own opinions and objective fact. Even warcrafts own og hunters were rangers.
Eleven rangers in wc2 are iconic.
I hate this arguement.
“It didn’t work last time” - well clearly something is not working if they are removing them again.
IIRC, warriors can use guns/bows/crossbows, or at least could for a time, they couldn’t DO much with them, but they could equip them. Not sure if thats still the case.
I think you can still equip them, but yea. You can’t do anything with them. Haven’t since cata/mop I believe.
But making a ranged war spec with bows and guns just sounds silly lol.
Warriors can literally use any weapon. They can still use guns, bows and xbows their abilities just don’t allow it.
And ranged warriors isn’t odd for fantasy.
Rogues would be exceptional for a sniper spec… Snipers are normally doing stealth and killing someone from afar would fit well.
Like warriors they’re also able to use guns bows and xbows, wow just doesn’t let their abilities work off them.
Also GW2 has a fantastic warrior bow setup and rogue sniping and it’s awesome. But I realize that’s unlikely for WoW.
I know. But again dnd also allows you a pet for rangers. And in older editions being both of those things works rather well.
I was giving you examples to match your own.
The issue is they’re stubbornly refusing to add another ranged class to fit the fantasy they want/feel people want.
It’s really odd theres only one bow/xbow/gun class in a game as expansive as wow.
So they mess with hunter. Lone Wolf was a good middle ground by giving a choice.
What they’re doing now could be great. I think what they need to do is keep the ability to use your pet if you want, move the utility to the hunter (honestly do that for all specs), drop the dumb eagle and instead pull from your stable and they’d have a lot less annoyed people and still get what they’re going for.
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