Yeah, this looks like something could be acting strangely with Withering Fire.
I donât know specifics, since Iâm not in the aforementioned Discord.
I really only keep up that close with Shaman stuff. (And even there Iâm behind since I havenât been very active.)
Thatâs what they are doing but they can also just keep the Lone Wolf talent and roll these changes into it.
They arenât because itâs a balancing nightmare.
The spec has been pet less since WoD outside of solo content.
Solo players will be fine.
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How is it a balancing nightmare? They just have to tune pet damage numbers to compensate for the Lone Wolf damage buff.
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Iâm not trying to be rude but you clearly arenât understanding what Iâm telling you.
If they buff pet damage to one target to compensate for lone wolfâs 5% bonus damage to each target that would break MMs single target damage.
Like I said itâs not worth the effort considering they clearly view MM as a non pet spec.
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And, letâs be honest here, it hasnât been for more than half of the gameâs lifespan.
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Canât speak facts here. People have too much of a bond with a pixelated âpetâ
This is why I mentioned earlier that pets need cleave abilities. Cleave is just how classes work now.
It can be balanced. Frankly I donât think itâs all that difficult for the math and sim people at Blizzard.
I donât understand why Blizzard has to make such radical changes that angers a significant portion of the player base unnecessarily.*
* Frost Mage has had the option of a permanent Water Element for more expansions than it did not. MM Hunters always had / had the option of having a pet.
I think Blizzard should take into account what players view MM as. Clearly many want to keep the pet. And to be blunt, I think what players want is more important than what Blizzard wants.
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They could call it Beast Cleave.
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Or what if⊠you debuffed the target⊠with bombs?!
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For no particular reason, you could call it Explosive Shot.
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And since they got the option to get rid of the water elemental in Legion, they ran it for all but 1 patch (bonus points to anyone who knows which patch that is).
So Frost was only really a pet spec from Cata â Warlords.
And because of the changes, you see a lot more Frost elemental now than you had since Warlords.
Just like youâll see more of a pet with MM now than you had in a very long time.
By all means, let there be a glyph to turn the bird into whatever pet you want. But from a gameplay perspective, everything theyâve shown has been an improvement over what we have now.
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BM cleaves with pets.
MM cleaves with shots.
If youâre insistent on wanting a hunter spec using a pet where the pet option is better than a no-pet option, BM and Survival already do it.
The âradical changeâ is to give MM an identity of its own that is truly unique compared to BM and Survival, just how they did a radical change for Demonology warlock to make it unique compared to destruction and affliction.
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And as I already stated pets cleaving is BMs niche. Did you even read that part?
Even if it could (it canât) they clearly have a vision of MM not having a pet.
The majority of MM players arenât angry. The only ones angry are a vocal minority of solo players.
The option doesnât magically make the spec not primarily a non pet spec.
The majority want this change. Like I said. You have a loud vocal minority of players that either donât even play MM or are solo players. The game is a group focused game first and thatâs where the priority is.
Water elemental was trash when it was a pet now that it procs from using icy veins itâs much, much better.
Itâs the same with anyone using a pet as a Marksmanship Hunter it makes your DPS drop massively so having it redone to be whatever the eagle does passively will be an overall improvement to the entire spec.
Howâs SMF been doing since it came back?
Unironically pretty well actually, but this is mostly because some of us just play well and a lot of the min/maxers canât perform at a point where smf vs titans makes a difference 
(Me on my smf meme war usually always beating titan wars)
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I played SMF a little this expansion and it was kinda alarming how often I was beating out higher ilvl furies.
On MThane, too.
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And, on top of all that, Youâre going to have Streamline up almost all the time next patch (which will also reduce the focus cost of Aimed Shot).
Youâll be able to spend Precise shots with Killshot/Black Arrow, youâll get precise shots from Rapid Fire. Consuming Precise shots can now grant Streamline.
Double Tap is back. Trueshot lasts longer.
Salvo looks to be just a passive part of Volley.
You can now 2 target cleave.
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