You do still have the option… Don’t take Lone Wolf. Then it’s better to have a pet. You’re going to be doing slightly worse damage but you still have the option. It’s like people think WoWHead is the be all and all four everyone. It’s a good place to learn the basics of your class and rotation, good gear and stat priority. But at the end of the day it’s a recommendation to maximize damage. This is still a role playing game and you can CHOOSE to play your role however you want.
Because the option would conflict with their vision for the spec. Just like survival was not given the option to keep a ranged weapon because they wanted it to be melee.
It’s not.
If they are doing either of those raiding/mplus with a pet out they are trolling.
It’s a significant dps loss.
Nope. They are removing the pet because of balancing issues.
They can’t make the pet playstyle viable because it’s that far behind lone wolf.
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Coming from you, thats a compliment. The marksman changes are a welcome surprise.
Hes not a serious person.
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Sendryn and I may not agree but they have always been respectful.
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He’s referring to Lone Wolf (the talent / passive depending on expansion) outperforming actually using the Pet. Blizzard has been allowing people to keep their pets while making sure it’s optimal to not do that. Now they’re full sending it.
FWIW, I think it’s dumb. Hunter is probably the class MOST played by people who don’t care about what’s optimal. Tons of people play the class specifically because it’s a pet class. Granted they tend to lean toward BM and not MM, but still. Messing with Hunter is silly with how popular it constantly is, and they’re now doing it in a fairly major way for the 2nd time since they moved off of Mana.
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If its better for the majority, yes.
Pets haven’t been an integral part of mm for awhile. Most run lone wolf to either not have a pet or because its just better.
And pets in their current state are pretty much worthless unless you just need a tank or hero. They aren’t involved in your rotation or gameplay whatsoever.
And these pro option suggestions are made even worse by people continually suggesting to bake in all pet utility and just leave the pet. Which gives even MORE of a reason to prune them like the frost mage elemental.
Because you can’t see the changes past your emotional attachment to your pets.
I love my spider to death, but I see the big picture with mm updates. There are a laundry list of changes PAST just removing the pet.
Yes, it’s a real question. I wouldn’t be surprised if over half the people playing are not up on exactly how one hunter ability impacts another. Same with other specs.
But I’d be interested in looking it up. Just where can we find details about hunter’s dps and aoe abilities drop when you have a pet?
That makes one of us
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You do realize there’s simulations and a talent for marks called lone wolf that provides 5% extra damage with no
Pet.
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They want you to reroll. There are still too many players playing hunter, and they need this to change.
During WoD they introduced lone wolf as a talent. I used it because pets were unreliable and sometime did crazy things. In Legion lone wolf was weak and I went back to using a pet. But I don’t play hunter anymore and don’t expect to, given this change.
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They’re getting an eagle. It’s a pet.
No I didn’t. Can you show me where you found that information?
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No. I do not want to. I hate the BM playstyle. This is like saying “go play warlock if you want to shadow dps” or druid if you want to heal. Same thing. Or telling a pally to go play warrior or any numerous similar examples.
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Thanks for the info.
I can see where that would be a big advantage in a dungeon or raid but for most of what we do it would be a big loss to lose your pet tanking for you.
And there’s the idea of not having your buddy running around Azeroth with you.
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Cant control it.
It wont tank for us.
It doesnt boost our armor to make us less squishy.
It’s as much a pet as sentinel owl talent and hero spec is. In other words, it isnt. It’s just a spell effect and nothing more.
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and yet somehow, it is still an animal that autonomously protects the hunter, or at the very least helps
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I simmed myself not running lonewolf in hectic add cleave and it was 100k dps loss because the per can only attack one target.
Most marks hunters don’t actually care about the more as they have been playing it without one since legion.
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Hunters aren’t squishy in the least bit. In fact they rival warlocks in survivability. Learn to press your buttons.
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