I asked for your math and you did not link me anything. Stay focused please.
Shivana. I want the math.
Baby steps.
Shïvana:
your ever so loved question.
Why is ML better than PLNR?
with PLNR you can stack classes to mess with the loot probabilities.
With ML that can’t happen and that means diverse raid groups are not discouraged.
If this doesn’t make sense to you, just say you don’t understand loot probability
Does this make sense to you, or does it not make sense.
These very people who want ML back are ironically the ones who want to play favorites and be corrupt LM but won’t admit it. They are angry they lost the power to do as they wish with others loot and they hate it. They can claim “fairly” all they want, but in reality its a way to hide their true nature and desire for loot control.
Synsha:
Because people don’t want entirely deterministic loot. It is fun to group up and see what dropped on the bosses body. The difference is that PL gives us zero control, while ML gives us some control. ML let’s us distribute loot as we see fit, PL just leaves everything to chance.
I prefer some control and a distribution rule set decided by my chosen group of players.
Yup that’s not for everyone, hence why we’re asking for the choice, not a replacement.
Whos’ these “people” you refer to? Because I do if it prevents corrupted LMs like you from controlling my loot. You don’t talk for a whole lot of people, you talk for the corrupted LMs who want to screw over others.
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Looks like someone who doesn’t want to actually acknowledge just how bad it is.
This is why we need baby steps.
Does this make sense to you, or will you dodge again?
Momma’s gonna keep baby cosy and warrrrm… oooooooohhhhhh babe.
Ohhhhhhh babe.
oooh babe. Of corse momma’s gonna help build the wall.
It currently feels dumb for my guild. We are still bringing ~8 priests to heroic anduin to try and force that ring to drop.
Here you go. The math that explains exactly how PL messes with droprates and creates incentives to class stack.
Cäpslöck:
Of those, everyone has 3 items on their Dausegne loot table, except the DH, rogue, and brewmaster who have 4 (assuming loot spec is raiding spec)
everyone has cape, there’s also a mail chest, plate boots, intellect DPS trinket, leather shoulders, leather belt, plate hat, gun, and a 1H agility axe. There are 4 other items on the loot table to a total of 12.
For the gun to drop under ML as one of the 2.6 items you would get on average, It has to roll a 1/12 (8.3%) to drop the gun.
Under PL, it 1st has to roll to see if a hunter gets an item, which is 3/13 (23%), then it has to roll a 1/3 (33%) to see if they get the gun. Both of these rolls have to come up true, which will happen in 1/13 (7.7%) situations. PL has changed the droprate of the gun from 1/12 (8.3%) per item to 1/13 (7.7%) per item. While that doesn’t seem bad, it’s worse for the 1h agility axe. that would have a chance to drop of 3/52 (5.7%) 3/13*1/4=3/52
The cape on the other hand, since the 1st roll (what player) doesn’t matter, has a droprate of 31.41% droprate (yes, this is 10π%) for that comp. (10/131/3+3/13 1/4)=0.3141.
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they just gonna dodge this, I was trying to get past stage 0.5.
I can’t remember if I learned probability in 6th or 7th grade.
Cäpslöck:
Of those, everyone has 3 items on their Dausegne loot table, except the DH, rogue, and brewmaster who have 4 (assuming loot spec is raiding spec)
everyone has cape, there’s also a mail chest, plate boots, intellect DPS trinket, leather shoulders, leather belt, plate hat, gun, and a 1H agility axe. There are 4 other items on the loot table to a total of 12.
For the gun to drop under ML as one of the 2.6 items you would get on average, It has to roll a 1/12 (8.3%) to drop the gun.
Under PL, it 1st has to roll to see if a hunter gets an item, which is 3/13 (23%), then it has to roll a 1/3 (33%) to see if they get the gun. Both of these rolls have to come up true, which will happen in 1/13 (7.7%) situations. PL has changed the droprate of the gun from 1/12 (8.3%) per item to 1/13 (7.7%) per item. While that doesn’t seem bad, it’s worse for the 1h agility axe. that would have a chance to drop of 3/52 (5.7%) 3/13*1/4=3/52
The cape on the other hand, since the 1st roll (what player) doesn’t matter, has a droprate of 31.41% droprate (yes, this is 10π%) for that comp. (10/131/3+3/13 1/4)=0.3141.
How the HELL dos that affect personal loot no restrictions??? What if anything too many people would abuse dictator loot. We’d just end up right where we started. No point in going back to that…
Because it is a fundamental feature of PL. Removing trade restrictions will not change how PL calculates what items drop.
So you want useless dupes to drop?
see, they don’t understand, but can’t help pretending that they do.
lol you got baited and so did I they removed a lot of it after they posted that.
Probability dictates that as you flatten the droprates, the chance for dups decreases. The chance of getting 2 cloaks in that raid is about 10% (2 31% chances both coming up yes). on a ML system, the chance of getting 2 of an item from that same loot table is about 1/12 (8%)
You are welcome to explain how personal loot no restrictions is worse than master loot .
I have. You are refusing to admit that you don’t understand it.
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