You can talk about the larger picture without being disingenuous and using unreliable “data” to try to back up your claim.
I’ve not been. You apparently can’t read.
It was a mistake to engage you in good faith. Another mistake I won’t make again.
That sounds a lot like a M+ problem. Isn’t this pretty much exactly what they put IO scores out for? All this complaining from M+ players about a problem they already have the tools to fix. Not to mention all the hyperbole about difficulty and gearing up a fresh 80 in Hero track gear in an hour and it all just ends up sounding like a bunch of toddlers throwing a tantrum.
If you don’t want to run delves, don’t. If you don’t want people with no experience in your keys make your own groups. All of the perceived problems are perfectly solvable with the tools on hand.
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That aotc is a joke really kills the argument that delves are all that over rewarding.
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timing 15s with no healers now
looks like the “m+ is hard so we deserve to be drowned in crests and loot” excuse just hit a cliff wall 
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Every complaint about M+ in every season before TWW:
“Make your own group. Run with friends.”
The people who said that now:
“That’s not a reasonable solution for me. Delves need to have their rewards nerfed.”
But of all the complaints about things that aren’t happening, “People in delve gear with zero rating are bricking my +7 keys” is the one that is not happening the most.
It’s far more likely that you’re kind of stuck in that range yourself and are just ending up grouped with people who hit their ceiling there as well while looking for something to blame for it.
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I wasn’t being disingenuous about it and was extremely upfront about the use of using the forums being vocal as not being representative of the larger community. You are seriously grasping at straws. How are you sitting there telling me that it’s disingenuous when I’m the one who used it as a small fraction of my argument while also acknowledging the limitations of the data.
You used “I” in your counter argument constantly and many of your rebuttals referred to how it would impact you. Stop trying to argue against it, I quoted it multiple times for you already.
You never did. I stated that it was “better”, but from the onset you were arguing about something that I never stated. Again you are the only one here that has resorted to personal insults.
You couldn’t refute a single point I made. I try to bring something relevant like class/spec balance into the conversation and you just blow it off and claim it’s “off topic” and “not valid” for whatever reason.
You just like argue. You like to gaslight. You’re disingenuous. You should be treated as such.
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Off topic but is your name a play on words?
Makes me think “So sorry” when I read it. Like you’re giving me the business with your name.
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You haven’t refuted anything I stated either even after I spelled everything out for you. You literally focused your entire counter on a strawman about class tuning that was never part of the discussion.
I already told you that I’ll argue as long as you want. You are the only one who resorted to personal insults and name calling. That’s the fact and isn’t gaslighting.
That was actually the intention of my name. 
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I’m the genius who cracked the code, aren’t I?
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You are actually one of the few, most people think I spelled the name of a Naruto character wrong. I had a friend who made a character at the same time with “Yusari” and “Nosari” way back in BC or Wrath.
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I refuted everything you said. You dismissed every bit of it.
You’re not worth talking to.
Indeed it is. And if you read back through my posts, you’ll see me suggesting M+ changes to solve it.
It mitigates the issues for the players that know about IO scores when forming groups. But it still creates more noise for leaders to sift through to verify IO since there are more players looking to hop into M+ after delves with low IO.
But this is also a problem for anyone who doesn’t check IO due to being new or not valuing the system. It’s a problem for the players who can’t get invites/people don’t join their groups due to no IO.
Or am I not allowed to propose an M+ solution to what is an M+ problem for some reason?
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You didn’t.
I clearly am cause you keep coming back.
I wasn’t speaking to you specifically just in general, you’ve been rather level headed here.
Wait?!?! Gear drops in m+? I wouldn’t know, most of my gear comes out of the vault, because with RNG more people lose than win
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In India a “sari” is a halter top and skirt type outfit. If you’ve seen “traditional” Indian female clothing you’ve prolly seen one.
could be a little store, could be an Indian girls clothes.
I agree that it’s not that common but the way M+ is currently designed, that’s what it takes.
The game opened an entirely new end game pillar. There’s some growing pains. Delves are more focused on solo or 2-3 players. Low M+ is still there, and still available to those that want to learn and push.
That’s 4 pieces in a week from delves. Once you’re out of keys you don’t get any relevant gear. M+ can be farmed infinitely. Yes it takes more time but that’s all the more practice to make better players.
Fully agree here. Glad you said this.
That’s quite a fortunate position to be in for what you’re wanting to do in game. Good for you. I know many people face time limitation and the people that truly want to push with their limited time are not in a good position right now. The best route for them would probably get as geared as they can through delves and use their remaining time to get familiar with low keys or push their score up.
Circling back, you’re right, M+ needs some help badly right now.
A better solution would to have specific gear for each content. The gear can have bonuses that are active in the content. Its kinda like smashing together tier sets and PvP ilvl scaling.
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Sure, but there are unintended consequences of decisions all the time. And while it might make people feel better to know the negative consequence wasn’t intentional, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be addressed. And given Blizzard talking about this very thing, it seems Blizzard has an eye toward addressing it.
It’s not 4, it’s closer to 8-9 depending on how many coffer key fragment world quests pop up. You get 4 from the various chests, about 1 from fragment world quests, then you can get as many as 4 full keys from radiant echoes. Depending on luck, a player can realistically have most of their slots with champion delve gear in 3 weeks.