Zekvir needs a certain level of gear to clear
this is still going?
Which I did in all delve gear.
Yeah? As a warlock. One of the best solo classes with a built in tank.
Used my imp, destruction. You act like kekvir is hard. I’ve completed it on my rogue, paladin, druid, dk and priest in addition to my warlock. All in delve gear.
so.
let me get this straight.
is it your belief that 0% of people that participate in delves will ever want to try m+?
because. LoGiCaLlY. that is the only way your statement makes sense
obviously. Some people do.
therefore. he is looking at m+ to see what can be done with m+ to make that transition smoother form those that do want to try it.
he even went as far as to say he likes where delve rewards are at right now.
Unless they return m+ to extremely easy, delves are the only other lever.
So you don’t care about game design at all.
The whole point of end game gear is that it’s not supposed to be transitional. Each pillar of the ‘end game’ is its own method of gearing.
You shouldn’t interpret Delve gear as M+ gear as Raid gear. Delve should earn good gear, independent of the other two (technically three), regardless of the ilvl.
Or should we start talking about why M+ gear needs to be the equivalent of Mythic Raid gear?
No, then they would wall it off like PVP.
M+ Title exists, so a pretense of fairness is good. Downscale mythic raid gear also works.
Or there is an option C.
We have been over this.
I am not in the mood to cherry pick Blizzard’s statements, take some as truth, some as lies based on personal whim.
It already is walled off. There’s no need to ‘otherize’ the gear because it’s PvE.
It isn’t walled off at all.
People do delves for easy gear, to try to skip m+, then they also do raids. (cause CE is the goal.)
No one is getting AoTC with Delve Gear.
This is YOUR idea of endgame. The funny thing is, Blizzard gets to decide how this works. Not us. The only reason pvp got separated is due to the balance issues between pvp and pve back in the day. I.e. resilience being added and eventually converted to versatility. Delves are PVE. Its entry level PVE.
No, no it shouldnt. Why should I slog through a 10 or higher, and get the same gear you get out of a trivial 8 delve?
No we shouldn’t because mythic raid is peak difficulty in PVE.
I miss the beginning of the MMORPGs like Daoc.
Ofc there you also had some toxic people…but WAY less then now.
The servers were kinda small: Max 3 k people divided into 3 realms. Imagine Blizzard…designing 3 different realms…1 for alliance…1 for horde and 1 for X.
And there were no instanced raids, dungeons…it felt like a fantasy world bec. it was open. Even a PVP (RVR) dungeon was open if your realm had the majority of keeps in the pvp zone behind your realm borders.
But instead of just having fun at wow, these days its an endless running after higher-lvl items, flaming people bec. of XYZ and so on and looking down at people who don t want to min/max.
Just a very sad development
Do you even play this game? Seriously?
More surprised if people didn’t. I’d wager like 80% if not more had delve gear in some shape or form.
People even got CE with it.
Because you get more stones and crests and better gear through M+.
It baffles me that people keep naval gazing the factoid that M+ is the best way to gear in the game.
This is just me:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/db6gfwZ1WCmKG8zB#fight=16&type=summary&source=10
Four delve items for aotc.
So then why is BIS trinkets, weapon, cloak, neck etc all out of raid? Or do you not know how to use subcreation, bloodmallet, and warcraft logs?
Aotc is a joke any more TBH.