No Ion, Not Everyone Who Delves Wants to do M+

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

@Sendalor-argent-dawn

Won’t be shocked if Ion and Co nerf Delve rewards into oblivion. Can’t have the poor raiders and dungeoneer Mythic+ try-hards feel like they are forced to do content they don’t want to and this is just them finding an excuse to do it without saying that’s the reason.

That happened to world quest gear and badge vendor gear. It always comes down to some raiding guilds forcing their players to do other content to stay ahead of the curve.

[Sorelai-wyrmrest-accord (Sorelai)]

@Nyaria-argent-dawn

Delve’s have okay Item levels, but the actual gear is very limited, and you cannot get any of the “Best in Slot” trinkets out of Delves. All the gear drops you get are basically all the exact same stats, you don’t get that much variety.

I would hazard to guess that many who just run delves, don’t care about any of this… I have absolutely no idea what best in slot even means these days.

[Foxymoxie-eonar]

@Warthinator-earthfury

for the rest of us who love to Delve and want nothing to do with M+? Don’t screw that up for us.

Agreed, I don’t care at all for M+, never have never will but he’d be wise to not ruin Delves for us now that we got something where we can get good gear without the heavy load of salt that is M+

[Amande-garona]

@Warthinator-earthfury

But for the rest of us who love to Delve and want nothing to do with M+? Don’t screw that up for us.

Exactly/10

[Lendoranah-stormrage]

Wait so tier 9s and higher give better rewards now? I thought it was capped at like 600 once you did 8s, and 616 in the vault!? When did they do that to delves? Did they do it for a week?

[Akston-area-52]

I missed the part where Ion said everyone who delves wants to do m+

[Nikolo-proudmoore]

@Lendoranah-stormrage

Wait so tier 9s and higher give better rewards now? I thought it was capped at like 600 once you did 8s, and 616 in the vault!? When did they do that to delves? Did they do it for a week?

No, I totally misread that, lol.

My Bad. I should probably fix it, lol.

[Nyaria-argent-dawn (Nyariá)]

Yes, I am aware of that.

but people are trying to argue that delves provide too much, when in reality what they provide is somewhat limited.

[Evilperiod-aggramar]

They dont know ya know?

[Xyrtran-medivh]

LMAO I simply skipped doing M+ all together before even attempting to engage with a really bad community such as M+ pugs.

They are nerfing delve rewards (as most people expected and due to demand) because they dont want people to only do delves and call it.
Too bad ion that people would do more M+ if you didnt removed the old scaling system. Oh well.

[Rentralo-stormrage]

@Maurdeth-moon-guard

If your reward track were truly not about ilvl but achievement, then you wouldn’t explicitly wait until 619 to knock down Zek’vir??

I chose that item level specifically because that was the highest you could reach just doing delves. Basically (and this is such a personal thing) I decided 619 cause for me that was like other games where I reach the final level and then take on the boss. Also, the higher tiers had higher item level recommendations, so I figured 619 would be a good point to take on Zekvir ??

[Testoraeu-aggramar (Testoraeu)]

@Adelphie-proudmoore

The core of the problem is why would someone run a M+ 6 when a T8 delve is significantly easier, gives better loot, and the loot has a 100% chance to drop? M+ basically starts at 7 now because delves are just superior way to get gear and that is a problem.

If the M+ crowd would do dungeons for fun, to spend some time with their friends, you know the original idea of group content in MMOs then the rewards would not matter at all.

Truth is, people raid or do M+ and also do Delves, because of it´s rewards. No rewards and the majority of people won´t play it.

Just imagine how popular pet battles would be, if you could get raid gear through it!

[Akston-area-52]

@Testoraeu-aggramar

If the M+ crowd would do dungeons for fun, to spend some time with their friends, you know the original idea of group content in MMOs then the rewards would not matter at all.

Thats why a ton of people do m+.

If the delves crowd did delves for fun, then the rewards there wouldnt matter either…right?

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

@Akston-area-52

@Testoraeu-aggramar

If the M+ crowd would do dungeons for fun, to spend some time with their friends, you know the original idea of group content in MMOs then the rewards would not matter at all.

Thats why a ton of people do m+.

Remove rewards then see how quickly it dies.

[Olewiseone-sulfuras]

to me this shows way more people dislike m+ than Blizzard cares to admit, so many looking for a different way to gear than that place, nerfing delves to try and force people back to m+ would be a bad move in my humble opinion, try fixing what is driving people away from m+ instead.

[Siersha-proudmoore]

@Adelphie-proudmoore

that is a problem.

It isnt tho. Let people play how they like.

@Royjenkins-wild-growth

so the m+ player base is working hard to strip solo players of a nice feature and Ion is listening to them.

WOWs devs in a nutshell.

[Totembread-aerie-peak]

Delve design > M+ for no other reason then you dont have to set aside 30 minutes to be completely uninterrupted, basically you get a pause button in delves

[Akston-area-52]

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

Remove rewards then see how quickly it dies.

Remove rewards from delves too then?

I dont get the point in this inane statement.

Especially in a thread where the entire point is complaining about delve rewards being potentially nerfed.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

M+ is only a thing due to the rewards.

Adjusting how the reward rates work doesn’t mean players like doing M+.

[Breadisfunny-turalyon (Breadisfunny)]

how dare you besmirch my good name.