Much more repeatable if you have infinite time and no-life the game, sure. But even then, the art of grinding Mephisto probably gives more loot.
…nah to easy. I will be nice.
You need to run 2.5 keys per delve just to be equal loot wise.
And that’s not factoring in maps.
Pretty much, they’re decked out in 626-639 gear. It is nice to see players from other content step into it despite massively outgear delves.
And you need a key for each delve, approximately 5 or 6 a week once you used up your bonus keys, and max four a day. You need to run 8 delves for your vault, two of which will give no loot. You can run m+ as much as your heart wants and potentially get gear each time, and more crests. You are just whining at this point.
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Oh yes it is. You’ve constantly said “delves hurt M+ delves hurt M+ delves hurt M+ delves hurt M+ delves hurt M+ delves hurt M+”.
If you didn’t think people should be forced into that content you wouldn’t use this argument.
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This is such a dumb and disingenuous take. I know you’re not this stupid and that you are smarter than this.
True but closer to the start of the season people were complaining about delves being too rewarding a lot more, and I definitely think a lot of that had to do with it cutting into the lower key carry market.
Do you, though? Do you know that?
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The biggest factor that’s also being ignored is Early Access.
You could stockpile 8-11 keys and be decked out almost champion gear the moment S1 started. I doubt Blizzard will let that happen again next season.
I can tell you from my observations that the people complaining about delves were also the people getting farmed by +7 keys so I’ll chalk it up to bad players being mad that other people are having fun.
Just remeber friend, if you hear hooves, it’s probably a horse and not a zebra.
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I have no issue with delves they are a great catch up for alts.
Delves are useful for when no ones around and you want to get something done and get decent gear and like I said at the top its great for gearing alts
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They do. They actually are an intelligent person but this most cooked thing I’ve seen them post.
Time is a realistic factor. And we had enough keys due to delayed season launch to render lower keys irrelevant more or less.
2-6s were painful, but wasn’t there long.
It does take 2.5 keys to equal one delve to equalize loot drop rates.
And with plenty of time , in theory, people can get more loot from m+.
It’s a good thing then that the whole season is multiple months. And even then, you were a fool to farm delves endlessly the moment you were able to do +10 keys. And Delves fell off the moment your guild had heroic raids on farm, even more so when you were killing 2 Mythic raid bosses a week. Let alone that Delves give you a piss amount of Valor Stones and crest (let alone no gilded crests).
Which is why I think the premise of your statement is surprisingly stupid coming from you that I have believe you’re trolling them given this contrasts your other stances that tend to be more thoughtout.
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Oh, I didn’t touch delves as soon as m+ was released.
But I do acknowledge delves provide faster gear, just in limited supply.
To think people hard struggling at 6s are doing 10 keys a week? lol doubt.
(But really, have to get to 8.)
I don’t even consider them for this conversation because they are still the people who can’t/couldn’t do 10s at 619 Ilvl week a month into the expansion. Delve gear rewards is irrelevant since rats with will be rats.
I think Delves are just scapegoated by players for issue with M+ rewards on the lower end for M+ only players. Because raiders doing M+ as well blew past these key levels and left Delves in the dust after heroic week. So again, any conversation directed at Delve rewards is big “bah humbug” energy.
This is the claim being talked about:
For them to be “more repeatable” number of keys done has to be greater than 10.
So it’s the 2-6 range.
Do you see that happening? I don’t.
Did type 7s initially, but thought that was unfair cause 7s awards hero track.
It’s like deleting the 2-10 key bracket, doesn’t affect you if you are above it, but for some people, that is their content, and they are adversely affected.
The longer people spend in the 2-6 range after being geared up from delves, the less fun it is.
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Yeah. I do actually. I play about 2 days a week for 3 hours. I have responsibilities to attend to. But generally, if you have a hobby, you tend to put effort into it. I just have no patience for the lazy who refuse to put in the effort to get better. The game isnt hard.
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