No Dual Specs - Blue response inside

Where’s our blue response to Tri-Spec??

Ulduar is one my favorite raids but the raid formula they had at the end of wrath was the best format they’ve ever had and it went downhill in Cata. 10/25 man with no shared lockout, toggled hard modes. There was a ton of raid content for everyone at all levels of play, and without the shared lockouts you actually had a good mixing of hardcore players pugging with casuals.

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As long as people ask for dual spec, they will be told that there will [likely] be no dual spec.

Make sure you keep that likely qualifier in there, blizzard has a habit popping surprise changes :stuck_out_tongue:

No, a lot of folks care about it.

Thing is, you can tell a lot about how much people are invested in a particular topic based on who they post on. It’s why I don’t hide.

That’s why I will never take folks like you seriously and will continually treat you like you’re a clown. Because you are.

You’re not invested in this game. You’re just here to pick a fight.

Now give me a sardonic reply, as you do, to show me how clever you think you are. :wink:

For sure, I’m not one to speak in absolutes as it pertains to Blizz, they’ve done some pretty dumb stuff, even as far as TBCC goes.

Funny you should ask, plenty of the Ghostcrawler references here actually pertain to tri-spec demands lol

Translation:

“There’s plenty of confirmation bias I can squeeze out of a few tweets whose content I cherry-pick.”

I mean, by all means, he should. Look at his post and log history. Delimicus is the kind of person you want to group with every time you do…well, anything.

Some folks wanna crowd around some streamer who acts like a clown. Delimicus actually knows his stuff. The fact that he doesn’t get credit for it is noble. Basically Drizzt Do’Urden of sorts. Gets no credit for anything he does.

Like, the fact you’re readily dismissing a guy who gathered a Full T3 and an Ashbringer…says a lot about what you really think about people in your community. All I have to say.

What? Lmao, are you being serious right now?

Did you even play Vanilla Classic?

Wait. You boosted didn’t you? No wonder you want dual spec…

Having Naxx gear is dime a dozen from Vanilla Classic. I raided Naxx till my eyes bled, I had full BiS from Naxx, Slayers Crest AND Kiss, infact I still use Slayers until I get the damn DST…having Naxx gear doesn’t mean anything lol nor validate his opinion more. I know some absolute chuffs with full t3.

So whatever the heck you just said, right back at you. Show some respect for the dedicated players who raided Naxx then, put your money where your mouth is.

I think this is an example of citing existing changes as an argument for more change.

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They’ll just keep doing it, and doing it, and doing it. >_<

i like how they act like the entire dev team isnt 1 person flipping a coin.

They don’t really care about subs anymore, though. It’s all about MAUs.

Now with the ‘content drought’ I could see people keeping an active sub, but not playing for ‘a month’. How many of those would if they could quickly respec ‘on the cheap’ to another role (tank/healer) or another gameplay type (PVP/PVE).

Personally, I’d love Dual Spec just so I could fill at least two of the 3 dungeon roles ‘on the fly’.

However, I don’t think it’s possible to get Dual Spec working ‘in time’. Remember, all, this is the Legion/BfA client. Which puts it after Dual Spec was removed for the current Talent System that exists in Retail.

…we’d probably have a better chance of getting that system (but applied to Talent Trees) than getting the system that still limited us to only two of the 3 trees.

I’d say we got a better chance of them reducing the respec cost to 1g (it probably can’t go below that without massive rewriting of the respec cost code), and then being capped at 1g.

No it’s pointing out that #nochanges is no longer a valid argument which is a very not subtle difference as now you have to argue why dual spec is bad on its own merits.

No changes is still a valid argument even if changes have been made.

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No dual spec is trash. When it comes down to it all not having it does is insert a price tag with wanting to do an activity in the game you aren’t specced for. Just lowers participation in activities across the board.

“should i spend 100 gold so i can respec and go do some pvp or should i just not bother and log off because it’s raid night tomorrow”
I’d happily bet you most people just log off in this situation because the price tag is too heavy and it’s not worth it.

People who are concerned about “BC not being designed around people respeccing in raids” need to just get over it as well. This content is a joke and is going to be steamrolled through regardless of dual spec being there or not.

I see what you mean, and Zipzo got to the logical conclusion before I did.

Maintaining authenticity doesn’t require a defense, in my opinion. DS is bad because it diverges from the original. I value hi-fidelity renditions more than “new spins on a classic”, if you will. Plus, it’s not long before we get DS anyway. All in all, I’m okay with people feeling they’re inconvenienced and find the game unplayable. People are given to exaggeration.

I’m very skeptical it will keep more people playing longer. People that are going to play will play, and people that churn and burn will burn out fast, as they always have.

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And having said all that, I would buy it in an instant if they put it in, and very much enjoy swapping between prot & fury or arms. And honestly, since it’s coming in wotlkc, I don’t think it would do much harm.

I have to say, that “Cave of 10,000 Crabs” post…
(https://askghostcrawler.tumblr.com/post/160282428853/in-the-previous-expansion-wow-introduced-a)
…GC seems to be saying there’s more downside than upside.

He was conflating dual spec with current retail specs/D3 specs(since this is long after he left blizzard) which work quite differently. His actual reasoning about why the latter are bad doesn’t apply to dual spec as dual spec does not let you be anything at the drop of a hat.