I dont think I’ve heard of win trading in wow vanilla BGs.
But CRBGs also makes games worse. PEople dont try as hard since it’s much more profitable to lose and get into the next game. However, before CRBGs, people were more invested into their current BG so they actually tried to win.
Also, CRBGs killed pvp guilds. Before, it was profitable to kind of get like-minded people together who wanted to win since it gave more honor that way. After CRBGs, no one needed a group to get a high amount of honor. If you want instant pug queues, retail already has that. So go back there if you’d prefer that type of environment
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If you’re Horde the Q’s are going to be super long regardless because the PVP population has mostly chosen Horde (ORC) to be their faction.
Most of the alliance on PVE servers have no interest in PVP an as a result will not frequent the BG’s.
They Might play occasionally but because the PVP population (Horde) has most of the skilled players the land slide victory (horde side) will drive any potential alliance players away from BG’s.
As a result the Horde Q’s will get worse over time.
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Where did you hear that??
WPvP is very much a thing on Westfall and a lot of us will be popping in BG’s as often as we can.
Where did you get this idea that players on PvE servers don’t like PvP?
Enjoying the occasional PVP experience is not the same as what the typical PVP player has in mind.
When I say most alliance are not interested in PVP I mean that. While you on a PVE server may occasionally enjoy a duel or maybe a BG here and there; most PVE players are not going to be constantly Q’s for the Bg’s like the PVP community who’re obsessed with it.
As a result the PVP Q’s for the horde will be very long.
Because there is a skill imbalance (not just a player imbalance) The horde will often win the BG’s making the enjoyment factor for alliance players reduced.
As a result of this LESS alliance players will Q for BG’s.
Some Alliance players will re-roll Horde for easier wins.
As a result of this Horde Q’s will get longer.
NET result is very long Q’s for horde BG’s
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I remember how it was back when the introduced x-realm , I was there, and it was great, it opened up a big portion of the game to a great many people. They have already said X-realm BGs would be in the game, SO you go back to wherever , I am exactly where I am supposed to be.
Yes, let’s also bring dungeon finder, LFR too right?
That’s because queue dodging is much more effective in the vanilla honor system. Assuming that’s allowed in classic the same will be true here as well.
I dont fully understand your leap from xrealm bgs to sense of accomplishment.
NO, nor did I say that.
X-realm battle ground was in Vanilla, Blizzard announced Classic with x-realm battlegrounds.
It’s YOU who are trying to change things already in the pipeline. On your retail toon to add insult to injury.
You are aware that this character was my classic character right? Hence the rank 13 title at lvl 82.
Anyways, you asking for it since CRBGs are essentialy dungeon finder for BGs
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Except BG’s in vanilla always had a queue system. All CRBG’s did was expand the pool of players which was a lot more of a natural extension of the system than LFD/LFR.
Unfortunately the only way of playing single server BGs is by rolling on a private server.
Blizzard do not want to implement the vanilla-like PVP system and instead have gone with the just prior to TBC version of battlegroups.
I am not ASKING for anything…It was already decided. It’s YOU who are asking. That is the indisputable fact. YOU are advocating changes to what has already been decided.
As far as your posting toon, Are you even playing Classic? How many high rank toons have been bought and sold. I think the highest i heard back then was $2k for a High Warlord on eBay way back then. The best i managed was Rank 11 on my troll warrior but deleted it during my rage quit during Wrath, when I found out that the old titles could be gotten through …was it arena rating? Can’t remember but the point is this, Your dusty old Warlord toon doesn’t make you an expert or authority on HOW Classics BGs should run!
Actually, it does because it means I actually went through the grind and played much more games in vanilla than you have.
lol @ those accusations. Sure buddy.
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I didn’t make an accusation, I actually expected you to say something cool like “i considered selling it but…” Because YOU would have remembered what people were paying for high ranked toons and just how cool it was to have one.
But I stand by my final assertions, you having a High ranked PvP toon, even if earned, does NOt make YOU an expert or authority on HOW Classic should progress.
Of everyone that can speak to how BGs should go, High ranked players should since they actually played the game alot. They actually saw how pvp communities died overnight.
So yes, I am an expert
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Maybe you did, but some of also saw how bad the pvp communities were before CRBG’s as well. And saw the positive impact they had.
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If it’s coded right it should que up within server and the overflow would go cross server .
But we forgot that pve servers are full of Alliance and they want revenge . Plus they can easily farm materials/ consumables etc
Yes I also saw the positive impact it has, but it was very few. It was good for the low pop servers yes, but for everyone else? Many negatives outweighed the good
It was good for low pop servers. It was good for servers where one side had a dominant BG faction. It was good for any server with generally low BG participation on one side or the other. It was good for people who actually don’t care about seeing the same names on the other side from time to time.