NO CATA! Keep WOTLK

There are always alts. I would level half a dozen alts through wrath before I would level one toon through cata again.

Cata had some really shoddy class design and changes that didn’t make any sense. Like removing drain mana while allowing priests to keep mana burn. That was a good one.

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Uhhh preg is one of if not the most popular specs in arena.

The highest DPS spec for priest endgame is a 29/0/42 disc/shadow hybrid spec.

All you’ve said is a bunch of :poop:. You clearly have zero knowledge of WotLK.

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and yet Whitemaine pserver has recently peaked at 30k active users.
Which is more than Warmane’s Icecrown and Lordaeron servers combined.

Also, pserver secene is smaller than 1 mega server.
It’s hardly an indicator of anything.

Let’s get 100 npn-coffee people to go to starbucks and none of them get Caramel Machiato. Doesn’t mean that camarel machiato isn’t popular. Just says that those 100 people only care about non-coffee drinkers.

Yes, Warmane has 20…maybe 30k players. It’s nothing. It’s a drop in a bucket in comparison to Classic population.

I find it funny that the people who dont want cata and are defending the old world are the same people who want boosts to skip the old world.

Want JJ to be on always and want boosts in the shop. You guys make 0 sense

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Removing WotLK doesn’t make sense. I’m confident WotLK will remain its own server, but I’m not sure if classic Cata would be a thing? Why would it be needed? Retail afaik is still Cata’d terrain-wise, and Cata-specific zones and dungeons (afaik) still exist. It’d also fragment the game further; you have people playing Classic-era, people on WotLK classic, and people on Retail. You’ll end up creating a unique, sizable group of angry players if you progress WotLK to cata, or end up with a sizable population on a 4th game split.

If anything I’m kind of surprised TBC isn’t playable. I get why Classic-era exists, and WotLK is “the” expansion when it comes to classic, but was there not enough interest in keeping pure-TBC realms around? Or maybe the changes between TBC and WotLK aren’t notable aside from Northend? I wasn’t interested in TBC classic at the time because it lacked the minimap quest tracker and I only really cared about doing all the classic quests I could find. I’m really only interested in the main menu music, but I’m sure I could find other reasons to play TBC instead of WotLK :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s possible I’d change my mind if it was released, but I don’t think I care to return to Cata.

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And the same thing happened when tbc amd wrath Came out For the record I do hope they do a wrath era That’s fine however.

I am excited to see what they do for cata Because I’ll say it every change they did for wrath Outside of no rdf at the Beginning Has been a good change.

On top of that cata Has a reputation for not being amazing And again Speaking from someone that’s been playing the game sense 2004 Classic tbc and wrath Played out nothing the way they did the first time.

So ya I am excited to see what blizzard do for cata.

There’s more to playing classic than the “terrain”.

You can’t play cata classes on retail, you can’t do proper cata raids on retail, just like mop.

No way they don’t do Cata, specially after saying “you won’t be in ICC for 8 months”

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Wrath was a lot of peoples’ favorite expansion Least they can do is keep a Wrath server like they do with Classic and then anybody that wants to go to Cata can and the rest of us can enjoy Wrath anytime we’re in the mood. I’ve played since original wrath and never met anyone that thought Cata was any good, including me, but I hope the 10 of you looking forward to it in this thread have fun.

Why not have both? What’s wrong with keeping a Wrath server and creating a Cata server?

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All the way to mop bby.

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Lich king is dead.
Why in the world would you want to keep going on a dead expansion?
After Ruby Sanc, theres literally nothing else coming in wrath.

There were 12 million people who played it so…

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Because people that played at the beginning of cata had obviously been playing wrath. That’s why there was a huge population drop months after cata came out. How many were still playing at the end of cata? That’s what you should be asking but you know the answer

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10 million, its still quite the good amount considering everything, like mmo’s not being as popular, many people feeling “done” after killing arthas, and the obvious issues with hard or easy heroics.

Honestly a lot of wow’s decline was more a lack of NEW players. WoW’s turnover rate was always high (100 million accounts created by mop).

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Perhaps you should look up how many were playing at end of cata. I know the answer.
I guarantee you its closer to 12 million than whatever you seem to think it was.

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In other words, more than current classic subs across all HC, vanilla and wotlk classic servers by an order of magnitude.

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A roughly 16% drop or so ain’t great.

Nowhere near as catastrophic as you implied.
Plenty will play cata classic.

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I think its safe to say that me and all my friends already know the private server we are going to be playing on since they are removing Wrath from us. Dont get used to Cata…that will be getting deleted to make way for MOP Classic.

Never said nobody would play it. I said they should keep wrath locked for everyone that liked it and let whoever has warm feeling for cata play that on their own servers, just like how they split classic and tbcc. As cata was the expansion that population started dropping, I don’t expect much of an audience for it, but have fun.