Night Elves and Forsaken don't need new cities

Could this be the theory that all the Forsaken at the time of the Nightmare invasion were little better than the Scourge ghouls?

I’d imagine the Forsaken probably had the same general nightmare (if without Arthas) since, you know, dying seems like a pretty easy experience to develop a phobia from.

“Those who currently inhabit Lordaeron lived there in life. The Forsaken are the true heirs. It belongs to them now.”
-Calia
Excerpt From: Christie Golden. “Before the Storm (World of Warcraft).”

Anduin was just being a usurper, probably Ainhin Prestor whispering in his ears.

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The Nightmare invasion was during WoW’s timespan so that’s unlikely. We simply don’t know how it affected them.

We can speculate that maybe it’s because undead don’t really have any strong memories of being killed and raised thanks to the domination magic involved, but really it’s just information we weren’t given.

She isn’t the first Menethil to unilaterally decide that she would cleanse Lordaeron of the living.

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How long have you been with House Prestor? Being wearing the Human form since, what, Second War?

Violent resurrection from Anduin? “With the Magic of Dominance and Light, I will raise you up anew!”

I’m just saying, her declaring herself queen and making really, really unpopular decisions on her own authority because of her name is a hallmark of a guillotine speedrun.

It’s not a surprise though since Terenas apparently never actually taught her how to rule.

By that logic, Terenas is really bad at raising kids, since you also implied Arthas into the same boat.

Ah, so, now the Political and Cultural heir of Lordaeron rejects its ruling family.

Gotcha.

To be real for a moment though, Calia is a woman who has been thrice victimized by the undead, and two of those times were at the hands of the Forsaken themselves.

The first when Lordaeron fell, the second when the Forsaken destroyed her new home and possibly killed her family at Southshore, and the third when the Forsaken actually literally killed her.

Thrice victimized and yet being written as completely subservient and submissive to the interests and whims of those who victimized her.

That’s a big 'ol yikes given what we now know about Blizzard and matches an unsettling trend of women in WoW only being treated as “good” when they tolerate their abusers.

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Oh okay, so you can’t claim Lordaeron heritage unless you unquestioningly obey the heir of its royal line no matter what they do, which is why Arthas was right to purge his kingdom of all those traitors.

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It clearly wasn’t his strong suit, correct.

Don’t leave the story like that: She thought she was protecting them.
It also spun this around her death:

“Sometimes the most beautiful and important gifts come wrapped in pain and blood.”

Excerpt From: Christie Golden. “Before the Storm (World of Warcraft).”

AHA! Confession. When did you first commit treason?

(All in good fun.)

This is reaching, she hasn’t been shown as subservient to Forsaken interests and whims (unless we include ‘trying to help civilians’ as submission). Largely this is the issue when you get a characters story after their growth has essentially finished, we only learn about her story in Southshore after she’s spent years thinking about it following it’s destruction.

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By encouraging them to join the Alliance, which is another thing that you tend to leave out when you post that text of her saying that the Forsaken were the “true heirs.” She assumed that them being the true heirs would mean that they would rejoin the Alliance.

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They should bring back Arthas and make him a horde character. The mental gymnastics on this forum and beyond would be worthy of paralympics.

Not sure what gymnastics are involved in the frequent Horde posters going ‘what in the hells is this terrible decision?!’

Half a year and we’d be hearing how he did nothing bad ever, I guarantee.

In context it’s not reaching that much. She has absolutely no regard for any of the Forsaken’s living victims. She makes no effort to advocate for the survivors of Lordaeron who would see her as a potent symbol to rally around, and the entirety of her focus in BtS is in the form of advocating for the Forsaken, even though unlike the Forsaken, the survivors of Lordaeron never hurt her.

Her paramount concern in the context of the novel is pretty much exclusively for the welfare of the Forsaken, and for convincing everyone around her that the Forsaken aren’t bad.

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