Night Elves actually did get a good ending

Yep, yep, yep, its Christie Golden. She wrote that Night Elves as a race were almost wiped out, she wrote that Moon Wells aren’t sacred for Nelfs religion and are just a SPA for dwarfs, and she wrote that all worgens were evacuated…

But nothing what she imagines is in game. The game is different world, there is nothing in game that she has in her fanfics…

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i looked for a source and found only the statement between books and game that new lore > old lore.

So it is not wrong what golden wrote.

Ashenvale has always been a contested zone.

It would certainly impact those Night Elf souls that have been rehomed there, not tomention many nature spirits that Night Elves kind of hold dear.

This time you’re absoutely right. As guests the Night Elves felt that they needed to be evacuated first.

Still dead, they are irrelevant.

One that rightfully belongs to the NEs but contested due to endless Horde aggression.

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It IS World of WARcraft, after all.

K. 10/char

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lol you leave out major points and then call me astrawman lol

I am not calling you a strawman, I said you are making a strawman argument. Is english too tough for you?

Tool. Your trying to say night warrior tyrande is less powerful than gen because of how their fights ended up. Even tho one took place much longer before the other when Sylvanas was much weaker. But keep trying to act tough on the internet lol

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its you’re. Not off to a good start are we?

Its Genn and he accomplished more in one cinematic than Tyrande did in several lol.
Genn > Tyrande Night Warrior.

He have lost entire Alliance fleet because he was consumed by vengeance. While Tyrande even being also consumed by vengeance managed to defeat the Horde, and now Alliance still have lands as also influence on the Kalimdore continent.

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He lost 1 skyship and sunk an entire fleet of Horde ships. How can 1 ship be a fleet?
He then denied Sylvanas her prize and completely foiled her plans as he walked away like a boss.

What has Tyrande accomplished?
Darkshore was conquered back by her soldiers not tyrande, and she failed to stop Nathanos from raising her people as enemy soldiers.

She failed to stop her at Ardenwald and Nathanos pretty much went to die to her as part of a bigger plan, apparently.
So please tell me again how Night Warrior Tyrande has bested Sylvanas or her plans at any capacity? The cope is real when you have to make up facts to push your own headcanon.

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I suppose they meant the 15 ships he lost in bfa.

But Jaina and many other Alliance leaders were also involved not just Genn. And who could predict Azshara and Naga are working with the Horde?

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No one apart from Sylvanas and Nathanos knew, that’s true. Don’t remember if the other alliance leaders were involved tbh. Jaina most likely because there were also Kul Tiran ships. But Genn was the one in charge so, yeah, technically he lost them.

Is that so?

Well, Mr Grammar Fascist… you should check your own use of words. Your previous statement is horse pucky.

That would only be “apparent” to a fool who is completely ignorant of the lore. Since the most recent cinematic makes it quite clear that Sylvanas has no idea of the whereabouts of Nathanos.

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Lol you know you have no argument when all you do is lash out act tough and then criticize spelling. Again a powered down version of Sylvanas is what genn dealt with. You ethriel and kyalin need to go on a cruise and then sink the ship.

There has ben no sign of Nathanos since Tyrande took him down and if the Ardenweald dialogue between Sylvannas and Tyrande is of any indictation. Nathanos’ last words were nothing more than his trademark snark and bravado since he’s obviously “NOT” at her side. In fact Sylvannas makes it clear that has not seen him since.

It seems to be more inline with Ner’zhul’s last words when he thinks he’s rejoining his wife when he’s simply fading away to nonexistence.

What did he neglect though? What was his weakness or mistake? He clearly means to say Genn was so blinded by vengeance that he missed the memo that Sylvanas can make an ocean disappear from under you.

And yet its Nathanos that goes in alone and tells us he went there specifically to die so… maybe nathanos thought he was following the plan but it just wasn’t Sylvanas’.

The point remains though Genn managed to thwart Sylvanas more effectively that Tyrande NW has.

Lol I did make the argument several times now and you still haven’t managed to respond to it. So you are doing this little dance instead.

Think of it this way… when Tyrande killed Nathanos what sort of cinematic message was it? What was the context this was presented as?

In the Genn v Sylvanas cinematic you see Sylvanas totally engrossed in her final objective of controlling the valkyr and using the lantern for… whatever she was going to do with it. This was her mission and ultimate objective.

Genn shows up and lands a few hits on Sylvans, lets himself get hit by her arrow and grabs the lantern then proceeds to smash it right infront of Sylvanas’ face then walks off the screen like a dude that doesnt look at explosions.

Then we have the Nathanos cinematic. What is the set up here? Nathanos is back at his home fighting some Alliance/Horde heroes all alone… then Tyrande shows up to kill him as he taunts her and says “Its allllll part of the plan teehee” And here we are.
At what point during this entire Night Warrior storyline did her super god powers ever allow her to thawrt Sylvanas or her plans anywhere close to what Genn managed to do?

Hence why I said Genn > Night Warrior because this power has proved to be wholly pointless against Sylvanas.

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