No. See my problem is, whenever something related to the night elves happens, it turns out negative for them because of reasons, and instead of giving them some attention atleast after that, they do nothing.
The Horde butchered their way through the night elves lands because somehow some way their soldiers went to Silithus. The Night Elves have been living in these forests for thousands of years and yet whole cities got taken out by a single rogue.
Then the burning of Teldrassil happens, everyone dies. Who get the cinematic? The Night Elves? No, Saurfang because he apparently is more sad.
Then,in the revenge patch, instead of letting us kill Belmont atleast, a god damn noname character, they make tyrande freeze him so he can be rescued later.
Then, Tyrande gets a power up and still canât defeat Nathanos because he is
somehow empowered by some death magic valâkyr. Then he just casually walks off and mounts up while fighting Tyrande, Malfurion and the powers of Elune after he got everything he wanted.
Victory cutscene and quest got scrapped.
We had to ask in a Q&A to get an answer on who won darkshore, now what about Ashenvale?
It feels like the Night Elves are just not allowed to have cool moments or the kind of attention the horde gets with their 4 GCI cinematics even though there was no reason for blizz to give all of them to the horde instead of the night elves.
And this whole thing is going to be even worse when:
We donât get to free their souls from the maw, and it actually being portrayed ingame
Sylvanas gets redeemed / doesnât die or even worse, kills Tyrande (which is basically the last hope of getting something cool ever)
So far only Sylvanas has been confirmed to be getting the sweet juice of the Jailer and even her endgame seemed to be a mystery for Nathanos if we take count his moments of doubt.
Yeah letâs ignore the giant Câthraxx general and the civil war that happened with Zul heresy. Meanwhile the elves got overrun against a few green bois and undead while their deity made deaf ears in their pledges of help?
Those 2 barely survived, the gnome went to coma and only got wake up after the war ended and Jaina human potential and goldenâs hand were the only thing that saved her.
Now talking about your second statement, doesnât feel ironic that later you have to be best buddies with Saurfang, the orc that planned the butchering of the night elves and keeping the civilians as hostages/slaves while you have to save Baine who has never say anything about your tree? Besides another funny fact, Shandris is against her own adoptive mother for not falling in line with Anduin thinking which makes her an unresonable person accordingto Anduin?
Probably or maybe some other force is still at play. However I have to say I canât wait to put down the Jailer for killing Volâjin at the broken shore. Although I know it was Alex Afrasiabi that wanted to promote Sylvanas as the MC of these latest expansions but he is still untocheable since BFA didnât flop like WoD
Youâre intentionally literally misusing the word literal to be funny, right?
I dislike all the same things you do.
However, I also donât disregard when we get good Night Elf content, either. âTerror of Darkshore,â the Darkshore Warfront proper itself, and getting the canon win of Darkshore are all good things.
If you ignore everything good, of course all you see is bad.
That seems unlikely, given the Sylvanas loyalist ending:
Nathanos Blightcaller says: ...As do I, Dark Lady. But when the time comes, there can be no hestitation.
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner says: There wonât be. Safe journey, Nathanos.
Nathanos Blightcaller says: Safe journey, my love.
Weâre not ignoring it. Thatâs exactly what Bwonsamdi couldnât stop. There was a whole cutscene of Bwonsamdi not really doing anything to stop it, even with giving Rastakhan his power.
Nah. I like Saurfang and Baine. It is unfortunate that Saurfang didnât live so he could make up more for the War of the Thorns than he did, but I am glad Sylvanas killed him before any Night Elves could, for this very reason:
Shandris is almost just the player stand in for people who donât want the Night Elves to get villain batted.
A few. They were outnumbered 8 to 1 and still the horde took a higher death toll. Weâve yet to hear when Elune didnât intervene even though thatâs never really been her thing.
The problem is that the terror of darkshore patch looked good on paper but then when you actually played it as a night elf (or alliance player) it looked like day and night compared to the trailer.
The only really good thing we got is the darkshore victory, and that was answered in a Q&A panel instead of letting it go live from the ptr. Also Ashenvale is also mandatory to go back to the Night Elves.
I still find it absolute BS that Saurfang gets 4 cinematics because he feels bad about thousands of innocents dying solely because of him but those that actually suffered from all of it donât get a single one.
He could be speaking about her mission to destroy the helmet. I donât think even he knows about the arbiter since he is supposed to be a super secret entity
He killed Zul the main architect of this heresy and Mythrax at least retired, has elune did anything to help their followers? Like for example, empowering Malfurion to win against Sylvanas? Besides by the time of darkshore, she was already struggling under Sylvanas command and Saurfang already started his rebellion which likely took a lot of her soldiers away from her
Also we have to recognize Câthraxx generals are top dogs of the old gods army, even the loas can struggle to fight them but the city wasnât overrun by blood trolls and after dealing with Gâhuun, things went to normality.
Oh didnât know you liked to hug your butchers, guess the alliance really has some weird fetish and had he survived. Heâd currently warchief while Anduin praises him how honorable he is as while Tyrande is portrayed as some incoming villain for not forgiving him to butcher her people
You can be wary of the orcs and not being a villain. Talanji wants vegeance for her father but she isnât going to let the wrong path for that.
A shame he was killed by this. At least I can use him as the outlet of my rage for this horrible storyline we got
He didnât need it as he won that fight. Had Saurfang not intervened sheâd be dead. Did you miss that?
Who was struggling? Tyrande? Becuase if thatâs what your saying itâs not true. The Sentinels were in tact and she took heat army to Darkshore and kicked the Horde out. Even Nathanos says that that were outnumbered in Darkshore and were later losing on all fronts. And Saurfang didnât have a single solider until after Baineâs rescue. Stop twisting the facts.
But then Saurfang was about to take his head off but Elune was preventing that with some magic dust according to him. Couldnât she do that a bit early to save Malfurion from a cheap strike?
Zekhan was sent to Orgrimmar to start to recruit people for the rebellion and Nathanos only say they are losing all fronts after the battle of Dazarâalor where most of the Zandalari fleet was destroyed. Besides youâre forgetting Anduin says he has a few troops left at the SoO 2.0 cinematic that happens after the 8.2 fiasko in Nazjatar. Try again
No matter how many times we try to explain, people just wonât get it.
Elune has almost never intervened directly in Night Elves affairs and the very few times she has they have been with little pushes to help her people do the jobs themselves.
Which is all part of the plan Sylvanas has going with the Jailer.
But Nathanos doesnât even need to know the Valâkyr would be getting power from the Jailer to benefit from them doing so.
Zul let himself get stabbed to distract Rastakhan so Mythrax would go on unbothered. Bwonsamdi didnât do anything to make Mythrax retire. Mythrax just left on his own because his mission was accomplished.
In-game Malfurion was winning against Sylvanas. Elune did protect Malfurion after Saurfang got him in the back, and healed Night Elves that made it through the portals and gave those that didnât a peaceful death.
Tyrande thought he was honorable, too. Thatâs why she spared him, as per Elegy:
The lethal points of Eluneâs light responded to her rage, becoming terribly, deathly still. Their sharp tips pointed at his throat. She longed to release them.
But she did not. Tyrande had seen little enough honor from the Horde, and she believed Saurfang was ashamed. How long had he stood there, not striking the death blowâhe, the high overlord, a warrior who had shed blood a thousand times over?
The Horde would take Darnassus. When they did, a general who believed in honor, and who had received mercy, might in turn show mercy to the kaldorei prisoners.
The Army of the Black Moon also doesnât show up to SoO 2.0, and the Army of the Black Moon won Darkshore, which was one of the fronts Nathanos was talking about the Alliance winning, so there are more Alliance forces than the ones Anduin brought.
Basically while i dislike nelf whining, saying they donât have valid complaints and been given a very poor hand by the narrative is wrong and stupid. However I donât trust the current writing team to properly fix them without either ruining the nelves more, or ruining another race/faction, and as such, the best bet for Night Elves is to sit the few expansions out until we can get a new dev team, who will hopefully find a way to properly build the night elves up. (This has nothing to do with me thinking nelves need to sit out in order to be fixed, unlike Baine, but mostly because the current writing teamâs attempts to fix and reinvent the forsaken have been terrible and i want no one to have their favorite race treated like that)
Question: Will Tyrande become a villain? Or will she get justice for people? Will the Night Elves rise above their relentless suffering?
Answering: Steve Danuser
âThe Night Elves have taken some shots on the chin in Battle for Azeroth, for sure. Tyrande is one of the most beloved characters and in all of Warcraft canon, and, I donât want to speak to datamined broadcasts and things like that, but we will see Tyrande have some conversations with some of our other characters as we wrap up the Battle for Azeroth.â
âThatâs a storyline that we definitely want to pay off and we have some interesting things in the coming expansion that I donât want to spoil but I hope that Night Elf players get to see a new side of her and their culture in a way.â
This also comes on the heals of another interview with Shani Edwards:
Game Producer Shani Edwards: Weâre gonna learn more about Tyrandeâs story. Obviously, she is still very upset about what happened to her people. Thatâs going to lead her to Ardenweald. Sheâs gonna get some answers to some questions, and thereâs gonna be some stuff coming with her thatâs too spoiler-y to talk about but thereâs more TyrandeâŠ. All I can say is she has a pretty big story moment in Ardenweald. Very big role also.
Blizzard Watch: Are we gonna learn more about Elune while weâre there?
Lead Game Designer Morgan Day: Thatâs well into spoiler territory!
Shani Edwards: Canât [talk about that]!
We all might remember Shani Edwards from this interview:
Senior Game Producer Shani Edwards: I think she had her moment where we told some of her story and she got her revenge for the Night Elves.
Maybe the game producer is trying to make up for that previous statement. But sounds like Steve Danuser is adding validity to this all now.
And what im saying âdudeâ is that I never brought up Taurajo in the first place.
In our conversation the only one to even mention it was himself, an alliance player, where I restated that a majority of the time I see Taurajo brought up is by alliance players.
This isnât directed at you, but⊠To speak on the solution being somehow being nuanced and complicatedâŠ
MAN! Writing team! Have Tyrande and Genn kill Sylvanas. How damn hard is that to write? Thatâs all we want! Why do we need an 800 post discussion? One sentence!
You literally did, my guy. Your commentary came before Amadis, he said it in response to you. Doesnât matter how youâve invoked it, youâve invoked it first.
