In your defense, one snippet of video from 15 years ago (in our time, think it was longer in Azeroth) doesn’t mean jack. Children died at Teldrassil. Obviously, Night Elves didn’t stop having children, so I would assume they repopulated prior to Sylvanas’ invasion.
I’m on the side that we have no idea how many Night Elves are left until Blizzard tells us so. I’m sure it’s low, but I highly doubt it’s brink-of-extinction low. Rhinos are on the brink of extinction, because they have a handful left.
Night Elves took huge losses, but they still have an army. Blizz can’t let their numbers get too low or there won’t be enough to crap on lol
Not accurate. By snippet, you mean the introduction to the literal game play of the entire night elf race.
Even in 15 years time, no race on the verge of extinction could be healthy enough to reproduce enough offspring to withstand a genocide. And if that were even true, that would mean there were more children burned alive than adults. Another great honor for the Horde, right?
There are real life countries with negative population growth that are having to import young, child bearing adults in order to stop the slow decline of their population. And they have just declined due to low birth rates, not the Burning Legion or genocide.
Yeah, you totally missed all my points. I even said 15 years our time, longer in Azeroth.
And right here, you ruin your own argument. If NE are still on the brink of extinction like they were in Vanilla and something like Darnassus happened, that’d be the end, and they wouldn’t still have an army.
Which it kind of seemed like was the case to me.
Are we discussing whether it was honorable or not? Or are we discussing whether it was genocide? Pretty sure it’s the latter, and I never once said it was otherwise. We’re all in agreement it is genocide, but you still want to keep arguing about it.
Night elves do not have a standing army, nor were they present in the battle against Azshara. Where are you getting that they have an army? If its from npcs the horde can kill for a quest, that has no bearing on lore.
You are sympathizing with someone who is trying to minimize the significance of a major lore event of Night Elves by making headcannon about “time passing”. Jaina’s not more than 35 years old, not that much time has passed, or all of her hair would be white.
Discussion on the impact of NightBorne and subsequent disrespect of NE:
Yeah, I’m done here like everyone else. Not only do you keep trying to pigeonhold me as a Horde player (thought it was pretty obvious I’m posting on my main), but your arguments are over the place, linking threads about Nightborne and talking about headcannon while judging age by hair color lmao
It seems you do not take the time to read. This is Mega Thread…anything that relates to the poor treatment / vilification / destruction of one of my favorite (and most Alliance members’) race in WoW, I will post. The nighborne was an attempt to hijack all Night Elf lore and give it to the Horde. Even the night elf model was stolen, in addition to night elf culture. Now true night elves can easily be discarded, which is yet another issue.
No one is “done here”, because you decide to side with people minimizing the obvious disregard Blizzard has shown Night Elves in the past few expansions. No one accused you of being a Horde player…you are merely a sympathizer. And a night elf at that, which makes it even worse.
Head cannon is what you make up when you say “a long time has passed”.
I am simply using a well known character as a point of reference for the passage of time, thereby disproving your own head cannon. There are dozens of threads where people use lore from games and books to calculate Jaina’s age. See example below:
33 years old
Based on some Lore tweets, Jaina is roughly 33 years old . Sean Copeland says that Varian was born in Year -10 (10 years before the First War). This makes Varian roughly 40 years old currently. and Jaina was born in Year -3 (3 years before the First War)
Thusly, your claim that several decades have passed since the begining to WoW as we know it is invalidated. And thusly, the night elves did not have time to repopulate and have suffered unimaginable loss to what little remained of their population.
Also, someone even broke it down for us already: Around 8 years have passed between vanilla wow and BFA…8 years is not long enough to rebuild a civilization. Nice try though.
When presented with the facts, he got real quiet. It’s easy to drop out of a discussion and say you are done when you are on the wrong side of the lore.
I hope Night Elf fans look forward to Sylvanas getting redeemed and Tyrande killed off in Shadowlands. I’m also so glad that Ashenvale is a Horde only zone now and that all dead Night Elves are in the maw forever
enjoy another night elf “revenge” scenario/low budget cinematic that will never actually go anywhere(or be reflected in game), because the developers and writers don’t really care about night elves, just cheesy shock writing.
How come Blizzard never brings up the oddly ignored fact that Night Elves are 10,000 year old warriors with 10,000 years of fighting experience and yet oddly the least competent defenders of their own homelands despite the fact that their armies primary warriors are literally called defenders/sentinels. This is just too stupid to ignore but somehow the millions of players/devs seem to not mind doing so. just to try and gleen one more second of “tragic anger” from the playerbase every expac. Yes EVERY expac this retarded plot device is repeated. EVERY.
I don’t know, I had very little sympathy for the Night elves when they started harassing and sabotaging the Blood elves after they were nearly wiped out by Arthas.
And… exactly how many blood elves died as a result of the night elves’ actions? Because I don’t seem to recall any non-combatants of any race being killed by night elves.
They ambush a whole group of blood elves in the ghostlands, where the player is required to fend them off, which isn’t the first instance.
Additionally the blood elves were already struggling to survive from a near genocide when they started infiltrating Silvermoon, and sabotaging their sanctums (which were keeping their city safe) so forgive me if I’m not the most sympathetic now that the tables have turned.
Again, how many deaths? And were any of them women or children? Because there were quite a lot of women and children at Teldrassil. Not to mention, Silvermoon is still mostly intact. Can’t say the same for Teldrassil.
If they’re compromising and sabotaging their defenses against the undead that put all the women and children in quel’thalas in danger. This is after %90 of their people were just slaughtered by the way.
Bullying people on the verge extinction, not good.
