Why?
So they can argue with you about it.
If majority don’t want you in the group, then that’s all the conversation you need.
Im all for the idea, but I really dont see how it’s gonna happen.
How do they verify the kick was legit or not?
I dont think the game logs will be conclusive in most cases.
Some players have a higher tolerance level than others…so the kick might be justified…or not…depending on what group youre in.
Do you punish for the kick if they kicked because the tank pulled too much? How much is too much?
Is the healer getting kicked because he didnt heal enough? Didnt DPs enough? how is ‘enough’ defined in that context?
In my mind its way too vague going in. No way Id want to play jury on it.
Bliz is doing it right by allowing the kick…what needs to change is we can participate in TWO vote kicks per daily reset…and remove the time out entirely. If tanks are obnoxious, you dont want them in your group in anyway…let them go and get a new one.
First implemented during Legion. At the time of implementation, mobs had more health and hit harder. Players were starting to quit. They rolled back the part where the mobs were hitting harder.
Players are supposed to find this an inspiration to do the hard content that will provide better gear.
Ion. They’ve been wanting to do this for a long time. Players will have no option but to git gud. This will return wow to its glory days of vanilla when wow was the hardest game in its genre, when 100% of players raided and had Naxxramas on farm. In their dreams.
Looks like they nerfed gear in follower dungeons. As of yesterday I was averaging 1 piece of gear in each dungeon I had a leveler in. It’s now 2 pieces of gear in 6 dungeons. Coincidence? Unlikely, but possible.
I’m not understanding your reasoning. A player seeing the reason they were kicked after the kick means they aren’t there to argue with the people who voted to kick. I get that you don’t want players who are regularly getting kicked and don’t know why to get that information. You’re in “good” company, because lots of players don’t want noobs to get any help at all, and wouldn’t lift a finger to help them.
If you wrote “gay” in the vtk box, the player has every reason to think you are a jerk. And if you used a racial or sexual slur or profanity, they should be able to report you.
Funny thing happened the other day… i have had bad experiences with Ragnaros players…
Me and a friend were in a dungeon, Rag Tank and two buddies of his are who we got paired with. Rag tank is taking forever, and screws up first boss in priory. I poke fun, let him know he screwed up. Proceeds to argue that he is right. I VTK, and his buddies all agree and Kick the tank. Haha PM ensues followed by the ol ignore. I laughed hysterically for 15 minutes. If that doesn’t sum up the server I don’t know what would.
Long story short, VTK can be a comedic experience.
Look at all of these Russian bots who hate democracy
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If you get removed by the majority what more reason do you need?
You were not wanted, so that’s your reason.
There does not need to be any discussion after the fact, you KNOW it’ll lead to heated arguments and will solve nothing.
You are already triggered from getting kicked, inviting further dialogue will just lead to more upset.
Yes this is a good step forward. And this would also not need additional resources from blizzard.
Cap players at 2 kicks.
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I mean personally I run into a bad group here and there don’t get me wrong but I don’t see anything deserving of an all-out kick most of the time even when the person is misbehaving.
The vote kickshouldn’t be used for when somebody makes a mistake or accidentally pulls something and certainly not over there racial or transmog choices.
If someone needs more than two vote kicks a day my guess is that person is the actual problem
I have been kicked 3 times since the expansion started.
I have been kicked 0 times since Dragonflight start to end of the xpansion.
I am sure we can deduce what the issue is here.
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That or quit. Good luck with that.
yeah…if you made it all of DF without a kick its clear that you ARENT the problem.
Same thing happened from legion to BFA.
Rarely saw kicks in Legion…and then it was like a bunch of jerks moved realms or something…player behavior and kicks got really bad right as Legion was ending and early BFA.
The only thing I am getting from this argument of yours is that you feel privileged to eject people from your dungeon for kicks, and you want daddy blizzard to protect you by hiding the reason from the player you kicked from a freaking leveling dungeon.
Okay, thanks for your completely wrong assessment.
Only thing I’m getting from this is you are trolling.
Huh?
/nudgenudgewinkwink
The in-game filter is not grounds to start cursing. This rule has been around since Vanilla, so I’ve heard. I’ve (personally) been able to trace it as far back as Wrath, when I got hit with it.
Tanks don’t get to decide what is fast enough.
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Giving players the reason may allow them to understand what they are doing wrong. You are completely opposed to letting them have any information on what they are doing wrong that gets them kicked.
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Giving players the reason they were kicked will let them know if the people in the group were just jerks who they are better off not playing with. Even though you are imagining that making yourself appear to be a jerk who kicks people from a leveling dungeon for apparently no reason means they will argue with you about why you wrote something about violating their grandmother, I think they’re actually a lot smarter than you think they are. They will realize that life is too short to have anything to do with you.
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Giving them a reason that violates chat rules means that the writer deserves to be sanctioned. You don’t think so. You want a free ride past the terms you agreed to every time those terms get updated.
Oh god please stop trolling me.
And again, how exactly is an automated system supposed to determine if it was toxic and not just someone being a bad player? If Blizzard isn’t going to pay for human moderation of their forums or actually live GM in game, there is no way they are going to pony up for this.
What? You’re the one who’s trolling. It’s a big deal to you that you should be able to violate the “social contract”. You know where it say “be helpful”? And you clicked “I agree”? Now you’re saying that shouldn’t apply to you, and you should be shielded from ever having to do that.
You’re asking them to solve a problem that does not exist, and furthermore to expend resources to do so.
Nobody is compelled to play with you. You aren’t owed the group. You have the capacity to queue with others the same as those using the kick system.
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