Random vote kicks for no reason at all, sure, like 3-4 guild members and they “lul” kick the 5th player. But most kicks happen for a reason I would have liked one addition though, if a person gets voted out it would be nice to see the reasoning for the kick rather than nothing.
This would mean, that the person who initiated the kick would have to log in the reason.
If they do impose this, then we should hold the person liable if the kick is false.
Safest option is to cap players at 2 kicks in a day. As lio suggested. Less resources commited.
yeah the solution i find is that just don’t treat wow socially since the devs are crap.
When im the one taking damage and knowing what my healer can do, yes, i do.
Get your head out please.
Tanks are the only one deciding. You seem like the guy who likes to control pace in normal mode dungeon with heroic dungeon gear ?
Am i right.
Haven’t seen any of this behaviour on a plus 15 key.
Back in cataclysm, if you vote kicked someone in a dungeon enough times, you got the message “you are unable to initiate any more vote kicks.”
Don’t know why that was removed because it was a really solid feature.
Vote kick abuse would be someone who spam vote kicks every dungeon - if you are vote kicking someone every dungeon, the problem is you.
They did not remove it. I don’t know what it takes to trigger it, but there is still a cooldown if someone kicks too many times.
There is also some sort of kick protection I thought. In that if someone gets kicked enough they can’t be kicked for a bit? I don’t know if that is real or not though.
With Follower dungeons it is easy to do quests, explore, learn a dungeon layout. So if someone wants to head off in a different direction, they can when they do the Follower version. When with others, best to go with the group.
Agreed on this.
Blizzard is not going to force 4 other people to play with one that they don’t want. For any reason. Especially not when they have tools in game to let people make and control their own groups, or do a dungeon for story reasons with AI followers.
Omg. I am going to go eat my popcorn.
GG to this thread.
I would like to propose that if someone leaves a dungeon or gets kicked (or gets deserter for any reason), they should be able to still solo queue into follower dungeons during their deserter debuff.
I don’t know if that’s the case already as I never get deserter and I don’t use follower dungeons
That is logical…
I have no idea either. I DO use Follower dungeons (love them) but have never been kicked from a group finder one. To be fair, I have rarely used the public group finders. I am very much one of those solo casual players.
I don’t agree with needing a reason to kick, but being able to see the reason for being kicked is something I don’t mind seeing. Especially if someone does use racial or gender slurs as a reason, though honestly, never seen anyone use a slur for a kick before.
If the reason is seen. And if it turns out to be a false vote kick.
Then what ?
There is no such thing as a “false kick”. The game does not require a REASON to kick someone. People can kick for any reason, or no reason. Period.
If they don’t want to play with you, they don’t have to.
The only rule breaking would be if they use language that breaks the code of conduct.
Blizzard is not going to babysit and make 4 other people play with you, or sit in judgement of whether a kick is “valid”. ALL kicks are valid if the group votes on it.
Now, it may not be nice. It may not be fair. They may be jerks. That is not against the rules though and people have tools to make their own groups. There is also a kick cooldown if someone does it too often.
Excellent point! That is one of the things Follower dungeons are really helpful for. Being able to learn a role, the pulls, the bosses, and the dungeon layout. Between guides and practicing in follower dungeons people can make great improvements without any pressure.
I might test it out later today. Just queue into a dungeon and leave to get deserter debuff then try to queue a follower dungeon.
Because, say a healer gets kicked for failing to keep the group alive, allowing them to spend the next 30 minutes in a follower dungeon to practice healing would be quite beneficial to them rather than deserter being merely a punishment for “poor gameplay”.
There is no such thing as a false vote kick. Reason why I suggested don’t mind seeing a reason, is because I have witness this beforehand, some people would initialize a vote kick and would include something that would violate the In-Game Code of Conduct.
And I don’t think Blizzard would keep logs on reasons behind a vote-kick.
Oh hey Orlyia 
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