Hmm, yea guess I’ll wait around more
Be nice to be able to get it as the other people who share the armor type, but we’ll see I guessss
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You can wear the plate stuff if you buy it off the black market auction house. As long as its plate,but I will say that the warrior set looks dumb on a DK
The basic rundown is this. Hardcore Vanilla raiders and people who have been farming the BMAH to get a complete set are being grandfathered into the club of being able to craft the material needed (LW will be able to do two of them). Everyone else can join the club by obtaining the set this way with a possible supplement or two from the BMAH.
The question is, how much do you value the set, and how much do you think you can make back on your investment on the back end once you can make the Cursed reagent??
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It’s not. Maybe check the quest before making unfounded assumptions.
I have no idea why you think the new addition is less accessible, but that’s objectively not the case.
BMAH has limited quantities of Tier 3 per day to be bid for, typically just 1-2 pieces, but it’s also possible for there to be zero pieces, and of course it’s never guaranteed to be a given set that you’re after. Can’t check the BMAH every day, and miss an item you want? Tough. Can’t stay up late enough to bid? Too bad. Do you work mostly night shifts? Good luck ever getting anything.
Meanwhile, the new system can be infinitely farmed as fast as you are able to clear Scholo or Strath up to the hourly lockout for the Scourgestones to get the tokens, you can buy the specific slot you want, the item will always be class appropriate when crafted, and the bulk, fixed cost of vendor mats is less than the average sale of most BMAH pieces.
In absolutely no way is the BMAH more accessible than the new system. While RNG is still involved in getting the Lamented pieces from the tokens, the ability to farm for targeted pieces at your own leisure is vastly more accessible than waiting weeks, if not months, to see the item you want pop up on the BMAH that you then have to be available at a specific time to bid for, and of course win the bid.
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That statement is Ion’s own words so if you have a problem with his vocabulary you can go take that up with him JSYK. If you don’t like it don’t spend 3million gold not my problem.
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I guess it depends on how badly you want it. I’ve always wanted the set but never obtained it. I’ll have to decide whether to spend a portion of my gold or not.
I’m well aware you were quoting Ion, my response was intended to be a jab to his choice of words not your own, apologies if there was confusion in that man I have nothing against you lol I just think Ion is goofy for using a word like that and doing the opposite.
You’re right there is zero debate, simply checking the BMAH and placing a bid is going to be faster, significantly more time-efficient, and almost guaranteed cheaper than grinding and then hunting down and being scalped by a crafter who is able to make your piece for you. (if you miss a day that’s entirely on you not the system, as the whales always say “gotta put in the time/effort to get what you want” your schedule isn’t the games fault kek)
There’s also the off-chance that true hilarity will ensue and the market will actually result in crafted T3 costing what BMAH T3 costs now, and BMAH T3 actually having it’s price driven UP
Like it or not, this craftable T3 system is almost assuredly going to end in a flop with miniscule player participation aside from people farming that new deathcharger recolor making some extra coin along the way by auctioning the mats they grab during their runs because even if all the other mats for the craft become overabundant the amount of crafted T3 will always be bottlenecked by the amount of players with [Drop Dead Gorgeous] who are available and WILLING to craft those pieces on your server for any price they choose to charge you
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dataforazeroth shows roughly 0.7% of profiles have the Drop Dead achievement, so let’s use that since it scrapes the Armory API. For comparison, only 0.4% of accounts have the Elemental Lariat recipe well into the second tier of the expansion, and that has been plenty easy to get crafted via Work Orders. So if even half of those players who have the achievement don’t play anymore, or have zero interest in crafting, then we still have similar numbers to a key craft from this expansion that’s been doing just fine. This is not the problem you think it is. And again, the number of people with the achievement, and ability to craft the profession items for themselves or others, will notably increase due to the new system.
There’s your math, buddy.
You’re leaving out the part that in order to even get the recipes to turn Lamented armor into Cursed armor, the crafter has to have the Feat of Strength - Drop Dead Gorgeous, which means they already have a full set of T3.
That means if someone doesn’t want to camp the BMAH, they have to find a player who already has their T3 and has gone through all the hoops to get the recipe. Then hope that player offers to craft the Curse armor for a reasonable price.
Then all you have to do is drop 2.8m gold on phylacterweave to turn each token into a piece of T3.
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Except you conveniently forgot the fact that Lariat recipe is NOT Soulbound and can drop for ANYONE doing the content and can be crafted by ANY alchemist that learns it. Even alchemists that have never touched Primal Storms can get Lariat Recipe off of AH nice and easy
T3 recipes are Soulbound, and ONLY drop for people who already have [Drop Dead Gorgeous] so you need to get the small % of players with that cheev who still play to actively farm that content just to get the recipes to be able to craft these pieces.
Also you’re right, maybe a few more people will get their [Drop Dead Gorgeous] from commissioning some missing T3 pieces sure. Now ask yourself, how many of those players do you think will then take the time to go back and keep farming that content for their own copies of those recipes? Most people are only interested in 1 or 2 of these sets for themselves, why would they bother farming recipes if they already got the T3 they themselves wanted? My guess is it’s gonna be far from 100% of players that obtain their cheev because of this new system lol
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Damn I need to buy some t3 bracers and rings so I can craft sets.
they tuk meh jerrrrb!! back in my day we had to get 40 people into ventrilo and walk all the way to the plaguelands just to farm frost resist to get this stuff!!!
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You don’t need the ring. Besides the kelthuzad tier rings has been removed since 2008. And loads of people have gotten the drop dead gorgeous achievement with BMAH
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Personally, the only set(s) I’m even remotely interested in are Warrior and maybe Mage. And for Mage, it’s mainly due to being a good set for a Frost Mage. But in that case, I can just get the Glacial Robe set which is infinitely easier and cheaper to get and, imo, looks better because it’s pure white and ice blue… where as the T3 set has purple stripes in it that I think clashes with the white and blue.
EDIT: I mean, just look how much easier the Glacial Armor sets are to get over T3: https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-obtain-lost-glacial-frost-resistance-sets-in-naxxramas-in-patch-10-1-5-334003
You can buy the patterns to make many OG Naxx appearances. Not all, but many. It’s not the same as them re-adding the old raid and the full list of appearances, but it’s something.
It carried over into BC as well,
One of my best wow friends named his toon Pallyranger as a result of their xmog for many tiers
Yeah, that’s my sign to check out of the conversation, lmao. You really are just that clueless.
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Even though I will never ever own a single piece of this armor at the current prices, I do think this was a nice way to bring back options from a bygone era in WoW while still keeping it the value of these old pieces.
If anything, Blizzard continuing to open up old transmog options like this gives me hope they will open up other things like Challenge Mode mogs, discontinued mounts, etc. through some very tedious methods or challenging encounters. Again, if they cost a lot of gold I will not be getting them ever so hope in the future the gold sink route isnt the one taken.
It was a good idea on paper. The unforgivable thing is that it requires someone to have a FoS from 2006 or pay massive amounts of money to the AH. That just makes it implausible and undesirable, and thus not worth the time to bother with.
I get locking Ati’esh and Corrupted Ashbringer, even though I feel it’s really quite pointless in 2023 (and if lore on this game really mattered then we would not have Mag’har Warlocks, let alone Lightforged Warlocks now).
I too played in Classic and frankly I am sick of the people who think they deserve special entitlements because of that. I may of gotten the High Warlord PVP stuff, but I don’t begrudge people who get the Replica gear. Same deal with the Pandaria CM armor that I also got. I would not begrudge people who got the CM gear as long as there was a similar effort required of them.
IMHO if you get it, you earned it. The end. Sit the &*@^ down. Naxxramas however was not the case despite what certain Devs may claim. It was always a matter of who you knew back then, not how skilled you were.
Release the Tier 3 and allow a skip for Razorgore the Untamed. I mean I appreciate all Blizzard has done, but realistically the portal you open to Naxx, should take you to Old Naxx where you could farm to your hearts content. That’s how you please players, not angry mid-lifers trying to price gouge and cash in on their faded glories.
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While I wouldn’t say no to a Razorgore skip, the fight has been nerfed heavily over the years. I can blow through like 1/2 or 3/4 of the eggs before the adds even show up and they usually prioritize me over Razorgore. And at Lv. 70, they can’t even hit me let alone do any damage. But, it is a pretty tedious encounter.