Yep. Feral received absolutely nothing in regards to something new, something to fix its issues, and something to make the spec more enjoyable to a broader scope of players.
Its pretty obvious why blizz pushed this out on a friday instead of monday. They didnt want to hear the honest feedback outside of the streamers, 1%ers and the white knighters who will all proclaim th we tree is “amazing.”
Hi Blizz
Already spotted a small bug in the feral tree. You seem to have missed Leader of the Pack… You know the thing we’ve been asking for for years for pve groups. The old classic ability that we ALL loved.
I’m sure this is just a small accident and slight oversight in anticipation of releasing the first look at the talents for druids and you will include it back into the next build 
Just thought id bring it to your immediate attention.
That is all.
Its clear you dont understand. Try again. Read it again slowly.
Maybe ask your mom to sound out the bigger words.
Thats odd, I dont see any spell percentages or adjustments listed here. (happens literally every expansion). Just a bunch of assumptions by you.
Is it though?
Go back and read the talents again.
Its 3 minute cd isnt listed at all.
A cd reduction is.
What about 60% damage increase? (see rake/shred)
Faster strong bleeds, you say?
40% from draught and 25% faster from circle.
kids just really be coming on here commenting on these talents without even having read them. How embarrassing.
for example…
Like… oh my god man.
Leader of the Pack: increases the critical strike chance of your party/raid members by 5%
Mark of the Wild: Increases the target’s critical strike chance by 3%
…and people wonder why Im always angry.
As for other things people have missed.
Swipe/brutal strike no longer exclusive. Its possible to have both.
Primal wrath can be paired with scent of blood.
(scent still needs it duration to match thrash’s bleed to be viable)
Cant use dart titan with photo? (thats stupid)
Hey white knighter, go elsewhere.
Its typical to see these people come on here and try to defend blizz’s horrific content. Usually they are making money streaming, have somehow cashed in with the current playstyle and doesnt want it to change, or they are just naive. Its obvious he is insecure of blizz changing things, which would make sense why he is angry.
Wanting to play bleed kitty and being forced into a select few talents for it just to be viable isnt choice, especially since there is 9 talents JUST for tigers fury. 9. Theres over 5 for just shred. How many is there for increased bleed dmg outside draught? Like zero, maybe one. Also, with mark, why the heck did we only get 3% and not 5%? Garbo.
This is the bs that people were concerned about when blizz announced the trees. Will blizz just gut the spec and put those as talents on the tree? Will blizz pick the worst talents and leave the best ones out? Will blizz actually build the trees so they fix many of the issues for the spec?
The answers are clear. Yes all blizz did was gut the spec and place them on the talent tree as “improved,” yes blizz picked the worst, passive talents and left off the good ones, and no, blizz did NOT fix anything with the talent trees. All they did was place the garbo talents on a different format. Thats it.
Unfortunately, we will probably get this across all the spec trees.
I havent defended anything.
I just know how to read.
so… we’re just gonna ignore BT, circle and swarm?
k
I know that helps your argument when you cover your eyes and ears and sing “lalalalalala”
We are. Why? Bc if the bleed build is reliant on 2 spells when direct damage has 25+, its pretty clear that its not represented in the tree.
Come to the realization already. Ferals ONLY have bleeds so they can do more direct damage. Thats it.
I mean…
We have Frenzied assault baked into berserk now.
Primal wrath is a thing.
Thrash’s damage hasnt been announced yet.
(nor do we know how that might play out with Furor)
That all directly contradicts what you just said.
I count 6
Stop talking about feral.
Youre not qualified.
Furor is garbo. Ferals shouldnt have to shape shift every 20 seconds to do viable dmg.
Assault is only if you spec into beserk and right now preliminary reports state you wont.
Primal wrath has been there all along, it still has the same issue as it always had: ferals had to chose between it and brutal slash. Which means blizz did NOTHING to fix feral’s aoe.
So keep trying, but blizz did ferals ZERO favors.
Same argument was used for old BT and owlweaving
I will if its a damage increase.
I mean… no.
Frenzyband is widely accepted.
see for yourself.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/25#class=Druid&spec=Feral&metric=dps
“pReLiMinaTy rEpOrTs”
LMFAO!!!
You sure about this?
I think youre under the illusion that the talent trees work like the soulbinds. (Choosing a path left or right locks the other path)
Its a point based system.
so you admit it then… PW isnt direct damage?
Cuase just a minute ago you were all like…
Kid straight up just forgot about sickle.
Pathetic
Circle
Swarm
Sudden Ambush
Lunar Inspiration
BT/Feral Frenzy
Savage Roar (not exclusively bleeds though)
However I agree with you more bleed stuff would be good.
Your part of the problem.
This is why ferals dont get new players, its bc of people like you pushing bad ideas: " blizz say i must shape shift so dare me question them!" All while the majority of players DONT want to shape shift during rotation.
He thinks rake/rip are our only dots.
This is why blizz doesnt read the forums.
Savage roar: garbo.
Ok let me clarify. Talents that ONLY affect bleeds and are not part of resource efficiency.
No blizz doesnt read the forums bc ppl like you are already ynder their desks…
Do us a favor and list the dots.
For my own peace of mind.
I dont care about your mind.
Being bleed oriented does NOT only mean how many dots you have, and i know it hard for you to understand, but take a minute. You need it.
Only two aren’t bleeds.
Come on…. Tell us. How many dots do we have?!!!
It means having talents that increase those dots… right?
Ok….
Druid Talent Trees…wow this is a hot mess.
There are a few positives but are very outweighed by the negatives.
With the Druid tree I’m a little miffed that I will have to talent into things I will never used like Rejuv and Swiftmend to get Remove Corruption.
The same can be said for Typhoon and Hibernate. I’m going to take talents and abilities I don’t want to which doesn’t feel great. This feels like a return of the Hybrid Tax in a new form.
Why do I have to go so far down the balance tree to get a CC that should be more widely available and easier to get to?
Furor is only for pvp, there is no other reason to take it so why is it a level 10 spell? Move it somewhere else and put something useful in it’s place for Bear and Cat or just remove it.
I’m not going to be leaving Cat form for 20 seconds to shift to another form for that length of time for such little benefit that’s unreasonable.
Currently none of those spells are worth putting any points in as a melee damage dealer. I’d take nature’s vigil only if I had to.
The Feral tree needs -a lot- of help. You need to go back to the drawing board for most of it. Why is adaptative swarm there it’s a very boring, unreliable button? Convoke without the conduit Buff and Niya Mastery is kinda… meh. Where is Sickle of the Lion? Why are there no BFA things like Jungle Fury or Wild Flesh Rending?
Scent of Blood has no place on the talent tree. Get rid of it. It has 0 play and use for a reason it’s a waste of a slot.
The tree looks completely unfinished with Berserk being that split it. It’s already not an interesting button to press being a 3 min CD and with the effects split- to get to other options on the tree I just won’t take either one.
Like it makes me not want to use my 3min CD because it just doesn’t do enough on it’s own being split up.
We have so many “points” just to buff Tiger’s Fury yet Balance doesn’t have a tax like that?
Please remove Draught of Deep Focus as it’s not interesting gameplay and replace it with something more impactful to the rotation.
FERAL DRUIDS NEED TO GET REBIRTH IN CAT FORM. I don’t care if we have to talent it but this needs to happen.
Being able to take Savage Roar and Soul of the Forest? Thumbs up.
Exactly.
Garbo tree.
Thats Not dmg cd. Thats dmg increase Overall. We have no burst cd for our bleeds.