New Sylvanas novel available for preorder

Malfurion walks up to a group of Night Elves, sees that they are standing over the charred body of an Orc, their face contorted in agony

Malfurion: “By Cenarius…no! No, what have you done!?!”

Malfurion pushes his way into the crowd of Night Elves, kneeling before the husk of the once-living Orc

Malfurion: “You need to light them from their feet upwards, they’ll last a good five minutes longer!”

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This is a hollow threat for numerous reasons. Firstly there will be a backlash no matter how they resolve this storyline. Secondly for some nothing Blizzard does will ever get them to shut-up about Teldrassil and their precious Night Elves. And thirdly everyone always threatens to quit for everything Blizzard ever does, these forums a hive of salt and villainy, Blizzard does not care about a story backlash. Ion said they are telling the Sylvanas story they want tell come the Maw or High Water.

So just sit down, chill out, relax, and enjoy the spectacle.

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You know it’s not even sort of hard to find people on the internet who’ll do exactly that. And man if you thought Teldrassil was bad just wait till you find out what they thought was a good idea.

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Are you referring to Blizzard? then please do explain furher

Insofar as Golden thought the Nuremberg Trials were a good basis for War Crimes- sure.

I frankly suspect some of WoW’s writers checked out of history lessons about the time High, if not Middle, School ended.

Humans have committed genocide before and after the Holocaust. And likely will in some form or another so long as there’s at least two tribes left on the acid washed, resource depleted wasteland our species is determinedly waddling toward.

What made that so horrific however was it was mass produced, industrialized murder. Literal death factories designed in that efficient German fashion to break people into husks then dispose of them like ink cartridges.

And even in similar hellscapes like pre revolution Haiti there was at least the revolt. The proof that you cannot break the spirit of man. Men with farming tools overcoming professional armies. Not so in the Death Camps or Ghettos. Where overlapping fields of fire or more crude tactics like marching children in front of tanks made the indomitable heart of man a punchline.

The second world war gave us a true glimpse of how destructive humanity could be. Not only could we actually wipe a people from the face of the Earth if we wanted, but we could wipe all life from it if we wanted by simply splitting a few atoms.

Those of us born decades later and a million miles away from any region that still advertises man’s inhumanity to man forget this often.

And that’s why we compare it to cartoons burning.

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They also said they wouldn’t have flying in Warlords, if I recall.
They said Grommosh was going to be the end boss.
They derided the idea they would do Classic.

Blizzard’s word is a low stock.

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it was also stated in an interview at one of the blizzcon. we have both in lore and dev talk that it was an act of genocide.

Darkshore, Teldrassil, and ashenvale were the largest population centers for night elves. Each of them were hit.

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Too late, ball’s already rolling. They don’t turn on a dime when it comes to novels, cinematics, and storylines etc.

The masses do not understand this, some people still believe they made Old Soldier to make up for the backlash to the War of Thorns. Terran and Steve and the C-Dev department are at least an expansion ahead of us right now.

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Novels and cinematics? No.
Storylines can. Again, Grommosh was to be the end boss. Clearly that wasn’t the case.
I still think Xe’ra wasn’t meant to be destroyed at the start of Legion (I don’t think some cinematics are as intensive as the Old Soldier type).

Blizzard has a greater track record of shying off than doubling down. Especially given we don’t know the precise nature of the story they want.

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Yeah, they said Grommosh was going to be the final boss, because saying “Archimonde and the Burning Legion returning is the final boss encounter” would have thrown off the whole time-traveling Orc hype thing.

I’m not saying Blizzard doesn’t lie. I’ve made that point many times myself about their interviews. That doesn’t change what Ion said in this case, and in this case there is no reason to lie because he didn’t say one way or another what he meant by it other than they are going to make people angry no matter what, so they’re going to do what they’re going to do.

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No, they said it because it was the case. They said they didn’t because of Orc Fatigue setting in. It wasn’t a lie, they changed their mind.

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Does it matter? I don’t even care enough about this topic to bother looking it up because it has nothing at all to do with my point, this thread, or anything at all.

You would argue with a STOP sign.

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Whether they’d change their mind or not clearly relates. But ok, head to insults, lol.

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Your point about Orc-fatigue has nothing to do with Ion’s point, because if we kill Sylvanas in 9.1 Ion’s point still stands. If we don’t kill Sylvanas in 9.1 Ion’s point still stands.

There is no demonstrative way of saying Ion lied or backtracked here becuase all he said was they are going to do what they are going to do.

Not sure what you aren’t getting there.

I’m not saying we can prove it. Just that it is an empty statement. By that same light, there’s no saying he told the truth either.

You’re the one pressing that statement as meaningful.

That’s not completely correct, for what it’s worth

None of these overthrew the regime of course, but they were absolutely symbols of the indomitable heart of man in my opinion, and in a couple of cases did result in camps getting shut down which likely saved lives in the long run.

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It’s as meaningful as any statement Blizzard makes about anything, you can choose to believe what you want to believe. Naught to do with me what you take from it or don’t.

Whining into the abyss about “There’s going to be a reckoning if I don’t get my way!!!” ultimately changes nothing.

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Again, you’re the one waving it around as though it means anything.

It means Blizzard is going to tell the Sylvanas story they want to tell, the story they’ve already written a book for, the story they’ve probably already finished a half-dozen cinematics for before the expansion even launched.

/shrug

Or is that me waving it around? Wouldn’t want to do that, not in the story forum.
:smiling_imp:

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Again, it doesn’t. Blizzard changes their minds about storylines like they changed Grommash’s.

Will the book change? No.
Speculative cinematics, we’ll see what actually gets put out.